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Annie



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:59 pm    Post subject: Plantation workers Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
I'm from philippines and I want to know if there are really employers out there in New Zealand recruiting workers from the phillippines to work as factory workers or plantation workers co'z there are agencies here recruiting people for possible job opportunities to work as plantation/factory workers there. Application involved a huge amount. just want to be sure before jumping into the decision.

Annie
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cris



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you mind mentioning name of the agency?
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Annie



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Cris, thanks for the interest in my inquiry, actually it's a travel agency and they said they have a tie up with a recruitment agency in NZ. All papers will be processed here in the phils and will be sent to NZ for final approval and job allocation.

Annie
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arlene



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Annie,

Be careful in what you undertake. I suggest you check the nzis website and study the application process for migrants. I also applied for work via an agency, CH Placement, and they ran off with my money two years ago (P30,000). If you want to migrate din naman, try the EOI path na lang.
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serene_ieg



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone I know paid more than a hundred thousand to an agency located in QC offerring a fruit picking job in New Zealand. Please be careful with this scheme. I agree that the prudent way is to apply using the new zealand immigration website. I am helping a friend do it this way. Laughing
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prtby234



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOU WILL NEVER GET A WORK PERMIT AS A PLANTATION WORKER. Non-skilled jobs are genrally not eligible for grants of work visas because these jobs can be filled by local unskilled kiwis. Maraming ganitong tao sa NZ kasi it is still mostly an agriculrural economy.

SCAMMER ANG LAHAT NG MAG-AALOK NG GANITONG TRABAHO. LALO NA KUNG MAY BAYAD. BUGBUGIN NYO AGAD PARA MAGTANDA! TAPOS IALERTO NYO DITO.
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jemarvazquez



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Anne,

I think that plantation work you told which being recruited here, is a scam. be careful with it. especially when they start to ask you initial payement so your paper can be process...it's most likely a scam. be careful lang.

jemar
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berns_20



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject: How to apply as a fruit picker in New Zealand Reply with quote

Hi,

Musta mga kababayan Gusto ko lang malaman kung papaano ako makakapag apply ng fruit picker sa New Zealand lalo na sa Te Puke o Turuanga??

Kailangan pa ba ako may working visa or kahit tourist visa lang puwede na?

Anyway seasonal naman yung mga kiwi harvesting nila at mga stone fruits like apples and grapes.

Siguro kahit mga 3-5 months lang ako kung susuwertihin.

Meron ba kayong tip sa akin para makatipid sa tirahan at pagkain kung man magtratrabaho ka sa mga fruit plantation sa New Zealand.

Puwede ba magkaroon ng double job sa New Zealand parang sa States?

Pasensiya na sa tanong kasi kailangan ko ng kita para sa pamilya ko dito sa Pilipinas.

Meron ba kayo mapapayo sa kin. Ano pala yung ibigsabihin ng "BACKPACKERS"?
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kirk123



Joined: 10 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi berns,

medyo mahirap kasi kapag wala kang work visa or work permit. Either makukuha mo ito sa Skilled migrant visa process or kung may nag-alok sa iyo ng job offer. Ang fruit picker kasi is hindi siya kasama sa skilled employment. Dinidiscourage din ang kumuha ng tourist visa at maghanap ng trabaho dahil strikto din mga employers dito dahil naghahanap sila ng work or PR visa sa mga nag-aapply. May kamag-anak ka ba doon?

Ang ibig sabihin ng backpackers ay literally mga turistang naka-backpack lang at wala nang dalang ibang maleta. I am assuming you have watched "The Amazing Race" series. Ganung ganoon ang backpacker. Dahil marami silang gustong puntahan ay dapat bare necessities lang na kailangan ang dinadala para marami at mabilis nilang mapuntahan ang gusto nilang puntahan.
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berns_20



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: fruit picking in new zealand Reply with quote

kirk,

salamat sa sagot mo tunkol sa questions ko. malaking tulong para sa akin ito dahil atleast alam ko yung nanyayari at gagawin ko. sabi nila kasi scam itong fruit picking sa new zealand pero sa totoo lang dapat direct kana sa mga plantation. nagtataka nga ako placement agency dito sa pilipinas bakit pati fruit picking pinapatol alam naman nila na seasonal lang to.

oo, siguro mag aaply nalang ako ng working visa sa new zealand, para sigurado kasi medyo familiar naman ako sa agricultural/horticultural work. dati ako nagtratrabaho sa fruit nursery dito sa pilipinas kasi kaso mababa ang suweldo. kahit anong agri related work sa new zealand papasukan ko kasi for experience din.

kaya pala natanong ko yung backpackers kasi, usually sumisideline sila sa pagiging fruit pickers sa new zealand. usually tourist visa ng mga yan 6 months to 1 year kaya nakakapasok sila fruit pickers pag season ng mga fruits like kiwi, apples, grapes, cherimoya etc... yung fruit picking parang sideline lang yan sa new zealand sa mga tao diyan.

pero meron naman permanent agri jobs sa new zealand like sa greenhouse management at mga gardening works or packaging. kirk, matanong ko pala, posible ba ako makalibre ng tirahan sa mga homestays or backpackers house kung may condition sila bibigay siyo ng may-ari like maglinis ng 2 oras???
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kirk123



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ang alam ko sa fruit picking mismo may libreng board and lodging sa ibang plantation. Nandito ang information mismo sa site na ito. Kung nasa agri management ka,baka makapag-apply ka sa skilled migrant category.

http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/articles/topic124.php

look under "volunteer work"
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JAP



Joined: 31 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kaya pala natanong ko yung backpackers kasi, usually sumisideline sila sa pagiging fruit pickers sa new zealand. usually tourist visa ng mga yan 6 months to 1 year kaya nakakapasok sila fruit pickers pag season ng mga fruits like kiwi, apples, grapes, cherimoya etc... yung fruit picking parang sideline lang yan sa new zealand sa mga tao diyan.

pero meron naman permanent agri jobs sa new zealand like sa greenhouse management at mga gardening works or packaging. kirk, matanong ko pala, posible ba ako makalibre ng tirahan sa mga homestays or backpackers house kung may condition sila bibigay siyo ng may-ari like maglinis ng 2 oras???


Berns,

Tourist or backpackers who works in vineyards or orchards are mostly holder of "Working Holiday Visa". I think this topic was discussed before here = http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/nz/article187-15.php These people are allowed to work in anywhere or any type of job they want. And they don't provide this type of visa to Phillipine citizens. If you are holding a tourist visa only, it will be very hard for you to land a job even if it is a fruit picking job. First you cannot get an IRD number (for Tax), second the pay is so small that you just wasted your money going to NZ - you will not be able to recoup the expenses you made (if you are thinking it that way). Third, you do not have health benefit, you have to buy your own travel insurance. And fourth, if the immigration caught you working, they might deport you and you will be blacklisted and your opportunity to move to NZ as a law abiding skilled worker might be jeopardize. But you are right when you mentioned that there are lot's of agricultural jobs in NZ. So why not apply for those jobs instead of fruit picking? But of course to apply for it, you have to apply as skilled worker through immigration. If you have time, try to read the Tread ""Filipinos who want to migrate in New Zealand", there are lots of things in there that you might find helpful to your needs.

Cheers Kabayan!

JAP
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clr



Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Plantation workers Reply with quote

Berns-20,Annie, I think I have something for you. I am pasting below an email I received from New Zealand. I want it known though that I DON'T KNOW THIS PERSON HENCE I DO NOT GUARANTEE THEIR HONESTY. If you wish to know more, please email at nosmo_king05@yahoo.com I am not charging anything.. just paying forward.

We will be starting Pruning
Grape Vines
@ 15th to 20th of May. This job is paid on piece rate and you can earn
handsome money.
You need to have a valid work permit and if you dont have a work permit and
you are on a
visitors permit then we can provide you with seasonal work permit and get an
IRD number
and a bank account for you. We will provide you with accomodation while you are working for us. We charge $100.00 per week per person.
Regards
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rita



Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First the facts:

1. Only skilled job offers are granted a valid Work Visa in the Philippines

2. Only Parents of migrants and fiancees of Kiwis are granted Visitors Visa in the Philippines

3. All other visitor's visa applicants not falling in the category as mentioned above are granted Limited Purpose Visa of only up tp 1 month stay and no more.

4. There is no such thing as a Seasonal Work Permit in the Philippines. These are only given to a select few countries that are given holiday work visas. The Philippines is not one of them.

CAVEAT: ALL PLANTATION, FRUIT-PICKING TRUCK-DRIVING, AND OTHER LOW SKILLED JOBS BEING RECRUITED OUTSIDE OF NEW ZEALAND ARE SCAMS.

There is no EASY OR FAST WAY of going to New Zealand and successfuly settling without the required valid visas so be careful.


RIta


Hi JAP its great to see you posting again.Its been a while! Howve you been? God bless

Rita
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rita



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thousands of illegal immigrants could find themselves deported and new migrants subjected to secret security checks under tough new immigration proposals being considered by the Government.

Labour wants to slice the estimated 20,000 illegal migrants already in New Zealand and halt the flow of more by reducing their rights of appeal and giving immigration officers the powers of police to arrest, detain and search them.

The Government is also proposing to extend the use of classified information on would-be migrants beyond issues of national security – meaning officials could obtain such data on anyone deemed a "risk to New Zealand's interests".

National, United Future and New Zealand First have backed the proposals, but Green MP Keith Locke called them "repressive" and said New Zealand was following Britain, the United States and Australia in eroding civil liberties.

Had the proposals been in force in 2002 they may have prevented Algerian immigrant Ahmed Zaoui from entering the country.

They could also have been used to deport him, despite his status as a legitimate refugee, under a provision to allow the expulsion of anyone deemed to be a risk to national security.

Zaoui is still fighting a security risk certificate placed on him by the Security and Intelligence Service and has lodged several court bids to remain here.

Lawyer Deborah Manning, who represented Zaoui, said yesterday that the Government's proposals removed basic rights of natural justice and potentially placed New Zealand in breach of its international obligations.

"The laws are harsher towards prospective migrants and they are taking away basic rights for those in New Zealand," she said.

But Immigration Minister David Cunliffe said the proposals, contained in a 300-page discussion document, were only the first stage of wider plans to increase the number of migrants.

The Government also planned to streamline the process for skilled migrants to live and work here and these changes would be announced later this year. The cap on skilled migrants was lifted last year from 45,000 to 51,000 and Cunliffe said he believed it could be raised further.

The first step was to toughen up the systems for getting rid of those New Zealand did not want, however.

"I believe we have some people in New Zealand who shouldn't still be here and it takes too long and it costs way too much to make a fair process work," Cunliffe said.

There are an estimated 20,000 illegal overstayers in New Zealand, and about 1000 are deported each year.

But many fight their deportation for years through four separate appeals authorities as well as the courts. In 2004 the Refugee Status Appeals Authority spent $1.9 million hearing 569 applications, 85 per cent of which were declined.

Under the plans, Immigration Service staff would be allowed to detain immigrants for up to four hours without police presence and even enter the homes of illegal migrants without police present.

The maximum length of detention without charge would be extended from three to six months.

The use of classified information would be broadened to allow officials to access top-secret data on any applicant – not just on national security grounds.

Plans to limit judicial appeals could run foul of New Zealand's international human rights obligations, however.

The British Government shelved plans to limit migrant access to the courts two years ago after Lord Chief Justice Woolf branded the idea "an unprecedented assault" on basic human rights.


SOURCE: By COLIN ESPINER

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