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maria

Joined: 03 Dec 2004
Posts: 12

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: immig consultant

hello! i posted early this morning my experience with the nzis re my submitted eoi. it´s under the topic "working." i don't want to repeat here what i wrote there, but since you guys are talking abt immig consultants, i found in another forum that this immig consultant is good: Scholes Immigration Services Ltd PO Box 44093 Point Chevalier Auckland Tel 0-9-445 7490 it is recommended by another filipina, who`s already in nz. she adds that they have branches in manila and cebu, and the manila offc owner is a filipina, and that fee discounts can also be given. check: http://www.scholesinternational.com/company.html you can ask for the contact numbers by emailing pinaysrdbest@yahoo.com. good luck to all of you.

malou
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject:

Hi to all, I'm here again giving some up-dates re newjobz. We got 2 CV now, 1 for me the other for my husband. They make assessments for both of us, they have decided that the best applicant is my husband coz he has longer work experience. They invited him to join in their member core 2 weeks ago but still we cannot proceed coz were afraid to let go that precius money until we have dicided "it's now or never" We really need that job offer coz we cannot submit an EOI (we only have 90 pts) So now, the money was sent. The bank told that it will take 3 days for that money to arrive in NZ. That will be all for now. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! malou

pinoy
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject: Newjobz

i've been following this forum for weeks now. I am also interested with those people who have seek the help of Newjobz to get a job in New Zealand and eventually, get a PR Visa. I have paid my associate fee and my core membership fee a month ago. I am still waiting for a job offer. The contract will stay for four months and if there is no positive results after that period I could refund my membership fee but of course, minus the bank charges, i.e.,telegraphic transfer fee. But they are optimistic that they could find me a job so I just have to wait for a while. Actually, I could monitor my progress thru their website. And its personnels seem to be sincere. Anyways, the reason I made a posting here is to inform you of my progress. Any development, I'll keep you posted.

Mo
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject:

Malou and Pinoy, First, thank you for all the inputs that you are posting, Many are waiting and monitoring this. Say, about 85million filipinos! hehehe! just kiding! Anyway thanks again! Mo

Janus
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject:

I've just filed my Personal Occupation Sheet yesterday. Malou/Pinoy, how long did it take for them to finish your CV? Pinoy, are you also in I.T.? Good luck to you guys!

GLOVE FOR LOVE
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:25 am Post subject:

hie everyone ...i have been following this column for a while....newjobz r we talkinn about ....well i am in nz wellington n been hearing about for quite a while.....i never reply to forums ...but this situation out here really made me feel i should put some views what i have been through n how does it work....well as it must be all ur hard earned money u spending....ok first of all make up ur mind...do u want job if yes for what? ......if answer is residense then read further.... (LETS ASSUME FOR ALL U IT PEOPLE HERE ) WHY WOULD I EMPLOY U....THIS IS THE FIRST QUESTION U SHOULD ASK URSELF BEFORE U EVEN THINK OF SPENDING UR HARD EARNED MONEY...I LL REPLY TO THIS COLUMN TOMM...NO HARD FEELING PEOPLE WHO R SUCESSFUL FINDINN A JOB WITHOUT BEING IN NEWZEALAND OR ALREADY FOUND JOB USING THE MEDIA MENTIONED IN THIS POST.I LL C TO THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS ADDRESSED TO ME IN THIS POST WILL BE ANSWERED...

pinoy
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: Newjobz

Honestly, I didn't quite get what glove for love was murmurring. If he is concerned, well and good. But we are grown ups who take responsibility for our own actions. It's not that we just throw away our 'hard-earned' money in the trash without thorough and careful research about this company. But still I would welcome whatever thoughts you have about this process. Aynway, the reason why I post my messages here is to give our fellow pinoys an account of my application. So that if my application is a success or a failure, then, they can decide for themselves. As for Janus, it took them four days to complete my CV. They will sent it back to you to go through.

pilosopotasyo
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:59 am Post subject:

Mga kalahi kong Pinoy, Nasumpungan ko habang "naglalambat" ang mga usaping kahalintulad pala ng biyaheng plano ko ring puntahan. Pero mahaba magpaliwanag kung purong-Tagalog ang isusulat ko kaya mag-"English" na rin ako paminsan-minsan (hehehe, sori...ang arte ko). Nais ko sanang "manggulo" sa forum na ito. Anyways, I understand this forum is intended for discussions about NewJobZ and residence in NZ as the final realisation of this endevour. It's only natural to have doubts if NewJobZ is for real or not. But just the same, it's only by our own self-effort or experience that we can attest if this company is true to what they say or not. It's good that some are contributing helpful tips and information about the company - but it falls to the same question: "Maniniwala kaya ako sa sinabi nya?". Checking on what our other friend had promoted about "Scholes" on this forum a couple of weeks ago - www.companies.govt.nz had posted Scholes as "struck off". I don't know what that really means but my point is, mahirap maging basehan ang sabi-sabi lang. It's better to find it for yourself, para walang sisihan. Makakatulong ang "contributions" ng bawat isa sa "forum" na 'to pero di dapat maging basehan na parehas din ang magiging "outcome" para sa lahat kung ano ang naging "experience" ng isa - dahil iba-iba ang mga "experiences and backgrounds" natin. Alam nating parang mahirap paniwalaan ang NewJobZ dahil wala pang kalahi natin na nagkaroon ng "magandang" karanasan sa pamamagitan nila na sumulat sa forum na 'to. If ever na may sumulat dito na may magandang outcome, hindi pa rin "conclusion" na magiging ganun din para sa lahat. I admire the courage of Malou, Ed, and Pinoy - pero LAHAT ba ng nag-contribute sa forum na 'to eh nag-apply sa NewJobZ and was invited for MEMBERSHIP? What NewJobZ is promoting: they will not invite anyone whom they assessed will be hard for them to find a job offer. Also, there's a contract which will be provided prior to formalizing the membership with statements under the Refund Policy saying: "NewJobZ will refund 100% of the initial member fee if a job offer in line with the agreed requirements of the Member cannot be secured within the agreed contract period..." Ano ba 'yung "agreed requirements between them"? Papasok dapat dito ang gusto ko sanang sweldo, trabahong "relative" sa "experience" ko, at "length of work contract". Kung ang "thinking" ko ay gusto ko agad makabawi sa mga binayad ko, maling diskarte na mag-"expect" ako ng magandang "work contract" na may mataas na sahod at mataas na posisyon. Gaya nga ng tanong ni GLOVE FOR LOVE: "Why would I employ you?" - may nakatago ba akong "alas"? Ilan? Kaya ko bang tapatan ang "experiences" ng kahit sino at kahit saang lumapalop ng mundo pa siya nanggaling? And this "assumes" kung makakuha ng "win-win" na job offer. If it's the other way around, ibalik kaya nila, "as what's in the contract", ang "initial member fee" na binayad ko kung hindi naging maganda ang "outcome"? Dito papasok yung "the best self-effort" na ginawa ko "to investigate their legality and sincerity". Kung di pala nila ibabalik - hindi "best self-effort" ang imbestigasyon na ginawa ko. Of course, everyone of us is hoping for the best. But I have to understand, "para 'tong sugal" - I should know how to play. And if I go to play, I should take responsibility on my own actions, tama ba Pinoy? "Initial member fee" pa lang 'yan. If I accepted the job offer after this, magbabayad ako ng "2nd payment ko" - hindi pa tapos ang laro. Kasi, dapat ko muna tingnan ang "requirements" para ma-"approve" ang "work visa" - babasahin ko muna sa NZIS. Kasi nasa "contract" din ng NewJobZ na: "A refund will not be given when the member has given false information or changes their mind after accepting job offer. A refund will not apply if NZIS makes a policy change that makes the job offer not acceptable after the member has accepted the job." An honest and credible pre-assessment would be a very good thing to do. Ang mga tipong sigurista - laging playing safe. But it goes the same kung plano mong "tourist visa" muna or "approved" na ang EOI bago ka pumunta roon - ano ang "assurance" mo na makakakuha ka agad ng trabaho? Ganun din, magsusugal ka rin - pero God bless you kung makakuha ka agad ng trabaho. Same as Malou, Ed, and Pinoy, they prefered getting a job offer first - and God bless them kung ok ang offer and pasado for working visa. And if you are the type na mala-"Bonifacio", may God be with you Mga 'tol, yung mga nabanggit ko sa taas ay "under the context of getting a work visa". Let's not make it to be more complicated kung ididikit pa natin ang EOI and that residence thing. Isa-isa lang muna ang focus. Sorry GLOVE FOR LOVE at mukhang naunahan na kita sa payo. Mas mabigat ang requirements to become a resident (assuming skilled migrant category) - pakibasa nyo na lang sa website ng NZIS at lalo lang hahaba 'tong sulat ko kung papaliwanag ko pa. So, this will be a matter of how I should set my strategies for the different plays. TANONG: Eh pilosopotasyo, ano ba talaga plano mo at nakikialam ka dito? SAGOT: Gusto ko rin sanang mag-"migrate" - katulad ng pangarap nyo, magandang buhay para sa pamilya. Pero maging klaro muna sana sa akin kung ano ba talaga ang "purpose" ng pagpunta ko sa NZ? Makakapag-"contribute" ba ako ng maganda sa kanilang society? O baka dalhin ko rin ang "bulok na sistema" na kinamulatan ko mula sa Pinas....at doon pa ako magkalat ng lagim?

maria

Joined: 03 Dec 2004
Posts: 12

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:48 am Post subject:

hello sa inyong lahat. gusto ko lang sumagot sa nasa itaas. may punto siya. palagay ko'y alam na ninyo ang nangyari sa aking eoi, at ngayo'y sinulatan ulit ako ng aking visa officer na dahil kulang ako ng 10 pts para makapasok sa pool ang aking eoi, i'd need a job offer. she gave me two weeks to do that, and i don't think it`s enough to find an employer, lalo na't WALA akong balak na kumuha ng mamahaling immig consultant, at saka papunta nga ako sa america (tatlong buwan lang). ang advice ng kaibigan kong nasa auck na'y mas maganda kung pupunta ako sa nz as tourist para maghanap ng trabaho, but it`s too late now. i agree with our kababayan that nzjobs or whatever that org is called, simply wants very high fees frm prospective immigrants. ayokong buhayin ang ibang tao sa pawis ko, and at a high risk at that, too. hindi sigurado kung mabibigyan nga nila lahat ng job offer. ang sa akin lang ay kung kayo'y may pera na pambayad sa kumpanyang kagaya nito'y palagay ko'y may pera rin kayong bumisita muna sa nz at tingnan kung dito ninyo talaga gustong tumira, at maghanap ng trabaho/employer on your own. 'ika nga'y you're putting your fate in your own hands, and you will not be (relatively) at the mercy of other people. nawa'y pagpalain tayong lahat ng Panginoon.

pilosopotasyo
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject:

Mga kalahi kong Pinoy, Need more information? Check this out again (it was posted on this same forum some months ago) - this is just a reference --> http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/bmb/General/246-4.html Like I've said, there were different ways that others were able to get the job offer and working visa. It's just a matter of deciding for yourself, after you have thoroughly assessed your resources, experiences, "aces", and EVERYTHING - if you really believe that it's the best way, go for it. What's the best way? Pray, do your part and God will do the rest (a context if you believe in the existence of God).

Ed
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject:

Hi people! Ina Ludick is now handling my case. I've asked her a question recently concerning my eligibility for work visa/permit and here's her response. Hope you guys could throw in some of your thoughts Ed: Hi Ina! I've learned from the NZIS site that for me to be eligible for a Work Visa and Permit, I should be qualified in an occupation for which NZ has na on-going shortage of skills. I've checked the long term skill shortage list and I found out that I.T. professionals should have a degree level comparable to NZ qualifications. Three years ago, I've submitted my credentials to NZQA for assessment and I was informed that my bachelor's degree in computer science was comparable only to a national certificate. The school from which I graduated was not also recognized. I am thinking that even if I have the experience and the required IT specialisation, I will not be eligible to work in NZ because of my education background. Can you shed light on this matter please. I maybe having false hopes. Ina: The immigration policy can sometimes be complicated. You are correct regarding the required level of education. It will be possible to find you a job based on your skills and other qualifications, and you could successfully apply for a working permit. You might not be able to apply for residence immediately, but after gaining some New Zealand experience and doing some training, you could be successful. You could enjoy the lifestyle here in New Zealand, and use the opportunity to study and improve your qualifications to excel in your career.

malou

Joined: 23 Dec 2004
Posts: 62

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject:

Hello to everyone, I just want to make some up-date regarding my husband job search in NZ thru NewjobZ. He is an Auto Diesel Mechanic. His employment manager is Luan but there is also another employment manager working for the job search on his behalf, she is Lindsay. Here is the great news, since Jan 10 these is the start of the job search, my husband was advised last week to do the medicals, as we all know medical cert will expire for 3 months and also asked to be ready with his police clearance, employment certificates and trade certificate because there is an interested employer and this employer asked if my husband can start in 3 wks time if the job be secured. According to Lindsay, the job is a diesel mechanic position and it is with a very successful company with branches throughout NZ. The position is based on Dunedin and offers great career opportunities with such a well established company. They also offer advanced technical product training. NewjobZ is very supportive they even attached the work visa/permit form and Medical certificate form which we need in the application process. As of now, they are organising telephone interview with the employer so that my husband can speak with them about the position personally. That will be all for now. We are about to go and do the medicals. PINOY- who is your employment manager and what is your line of work? ED- what are your plans now? PILOSOPOTASYO,GLOVE FOR LOVE AND MARIA- thanks for the eye-opening remarks. we really appreciate all your concerns. GOD BLESS TO ALL! _________________ Do not say to your neighbor, "Go, and come back, And tomorrow I will give it," When you have it with you. (Proverbs 3:2

Ed
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject:

Hi Malou, According to Ina Ludick, I still have a chance to secure a job in NZ even without a recognized qualification. I can't do anything at the moment except wait and pray that my experience and skills would be most considered. I also sent Ina another email asking how do they intend to work on my case considering my educational attainment is not at par with NZ standard. If you don't mind, may I ask kung san graduate si husband? The way things are going, mukhang tuloy tuloy na kayo ah. Galing naman

optimistic26

Joined: 16 Jan 2005
Posts: 12
Location: Philippines

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: EOI preparation

Hi Everyone! I just want to get some pointers and guidance on the preparation of EOI. The first thing I did is to have my qualifications assessed by the NZQA. I sent my pre-assessment application on-line Jan. 16, 2005 and fortunately I received the result Jan 19, 2005 saying that my qualifications is comparable to level 5 - National Diploma. Im quite happy for the result coz it is one of the requirements for immigrants in the POL. at least am qualified and it will surely add points to my EOI. I am applying under skilled migrant category with my partner. but as of now our status is still single, but were planning to get married before lodging the EOI. I learned that one of the requirements as partners is to be legally married and living together for the last 12 months, magkaron kaya ako ng problem dito in proving our status? considering that we just got married recently before lodging the EOI. I worked as a Telecom Technician, Nov 1996 -March 2003 with one of the top multi national company here in the Philippines. I graduated with the Diploma in the three year technician course-ELECTRONICS TECHNOLOGY. Year 1998 when I decided to pursue my degree in Engineering (BSECE) to get promotions and career advancement in the future. Thank God I was able to graduate March 2003 coz its really hard juggling work and studies. My question is, will my 6 years experience be recognised according to the degree I have? Me and my partner are about to take the IELTS exam this february hope to pass with a high band. Your answers will highly be appreciated Thanks... Malou: I just want to ask if you already upgrade your position in NEWJOBZ.com? I just want to know how they really work. Keith Lightfoot.. you know.. I learned that the initial payment there is around P16k and more after... I might also get their services if theres no more option in getting a job offer. Thanks...

pinoy
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject:

Malou, That's good news and it was indeed fast. My employment manager is also Luan and the other one is Beth Foster. I am a Quantity Surveyor and have a BSCE degree. Hopefully, they can find me a job soon. So, good luck and best regards

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