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xia



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:35 am    Post subject: SAMPANG IMMIGRATION CONSULTANCY Reply with quote

Anybody knows SAMPANG IMMIGRATION CONSULTANCY located in Pasay City, Philippines or who has a pending NZ Immigrant application thru the said firm?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: SAMPANG IMMIGRATION CONSULTANCY Reply with quote

xia wrote:
Anybody knows SAMPANG IMMIGRATION CONSULTANCY located in Pasay City, Philippines or who has a pending NZ Immigrant application thru the said firm?


Please be advised that the NZ government has created an agency called the Immigration Advisers Authority, or IAA (www.iaa.govt.nz). By NZ law, ALL immigration consultants and advisors, operating in NZ and other countries such as the Philippines, are NOW REQUIRED to be registered with the IAA.

If you decide to use the services of a consultant, your application will NOT be entertained by NZ Immigration unless such consultant is registered.

ALL APPLICATIONS for visas to NZ have these provisions written on them, so I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP. If you search on Sampang's name on the IAA website, you have the answers your are searching.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks levi.. i can't find him in the list. My papers are pending..am waiting for the interview (lodged my EOI in 2005). By the way, is it possible that I drop him and continue with my application on my own?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xia wrote:
thanks levi.. i can't find him in the list. My papers are pending..am waiting for the interview (lodged my EOI in 2005). By the way, is it possible that I drop him and continue with my application on my own?


You better call immigration right away about your situation. To be honest, registration of consultants is a recent development so I am unsure as to how will Immigration treat your current situation since you got his services last 2005 way before this registration law was passed.

But seriously - 2005 and still no visa? That's almost 5 years ago! Half a decade! I've got friends who applied later than you and they are here already!

Are you sure your application is with immigration? What was the reason Sampang gave you for the very long delay in your application? Do you have character and health issues that might delay your application?

*Shaking my head in disbelief*
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to give you an idea of what we have gone thru, so far..

EOI - 8/22/2005 (55,230)all amounts are in Phil. Peso
(Pre-assesment)(10,700)

6/30/2006 - received an email from EOI Team that my EOI was incorrectly withdrawn from the pool. For the re-entry, Sampang Consultancy asked me to pay 12,400.

EOI - 7/5/2006 (claimed 15 points for work experience in an absolute skills shortage)

8/3/2006 - received an email from Kelvin Thompson that I will not be invited for residence. It is stated in his letter that while checking the information in the EOI, they determined that the claims for points was made in error.("we have not awarded any bonus points for your experience as the policy criteria do not appear to have been met").


EOI - 4/14/2008 - they included my spouse, and he contributed points.

6/13/2008 - received email from Nabun Pananon that we have not met the selection criteria, they cannot award points for my husbands qualification. But still, we provided supporting evidence that he is entitled for points.

ITA - 7/2/2008
* done with our medical
* 1,080 (courier fee)
* 7,137 (2nd consultation fee)

* NZQA - 5/26/2009 (paid 24,810 for me and my husband's NZQA assesment)

After 3 months, they informed me that our medical is ok and I am exempted from taking the IELTS, but my husband is not. Unfortunately, he only got Band 5,no ample preparation actually as he works overseas and stays offshore making it so impossible for him to take a review. Can we make an appeal though?

Still hoping, fingers crossed.

Thanks so much for your time Levi.Am really, really so desperate especially when I can't find his name/company on the list.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xia wrote:
Just to give you an idea of what we have gone thru, so far..

EOI - 8/22/2005 (55,230)all amounts are in Phil. Peso
(Pre-assesment)(10,700)

6/30/2006 - received an email from EOI Team that my EOI was incorrectly withdrawn from the pool. For the re-entry, Sampang Consultancy asked me to pay 12,400.

EOI - 7/5/2006 (claimed 15 points for work experience in an absolute skills shortage)

8/3/2006 - received an email from Kelvin Thompson that I will not be invited for residence. It is stated in his letter that while checking the information in the EOI, they determined that the claims for points was made in error.("we have not awarded any bonus points for your experience as the policy criteria do not appear to have been met").


EOI - 4/14/2008 - they included my spouse, and he contributed points.

6/13/2008 - received email from Nabun Pananon that we have not met the selection criteria, they cannot award points for my husbands qualification. But still, we provided supporting evidence that he is entitled for points.

ITA - 7/2/2008
* done with our medical
* 1,080 (courier fee)
* 7,137 (2nd consultation fee)

* NZQA - 5/26/2009 (paid 24,810 for me and my husband's NZQA assesment)

After 3 months, they informed me that our medical is ok and I am exempted from taking the IELTS, but my husband is not. Unfortunately, he only got Band 5,no ample preparation actually as he works overseas and stays offshore making it so impossible for him to take a review. Can we make an appeal though?

Still hoping, fingers crossed.

Thanks so much for your time Levi.Am really, really so desperate especially when I can't find his name/company on the list.


Sorry to hear your application is not resulting positively but you need to take action if you feel you are not being dealt with positively by Sampang, there are ways to deal with that, you just need to ask Immigration or IAA. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello again. talked to my consultant and he said best way to save my application is to go to NZ as student or tourist.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xia wrote:
hello again. talked to my consultant and he said best way to save my application is to go to NZ as student or tourist.


1. Did you ask him the reason why his name or company is not listed in the IAA roster of registered consultants?

2. You mentioned that the Sampang EOI Team told you that your application was "incorrectly withdrawn" from the pool and that you have to "re-apply" all over again. Did you ask Immigration if this is true or did you just took your consultant's advice in face value?

3. You mentioned that when you "re-applied" for EOI (and paid Sampang all over again), and I assume that you were now "correctly selected" from the pool, however, one Kevin Thompson (who I infer is the NZ Immigration visa officer) did not invite you to apply for residency because the points you claimed "were made in error." Did NZ Immigration give you the opportunity to explain or to give additional evidence in order to claim such points?

4. You mentioned that in April 14, 2006, two years after you were not invited to apply for residency, you had another EOI, this time they (I infer "they" being Sampang) included your spouse to add points. I am confused by this since from my personal experience and the experience of people I know who applied for residency, were you not advised to include your spouse in your first EOI?

5. Then you mentioned that you almost did not meet the selection criteria for the third time, but now you were able to submit evidence.

6. Then you mentioned that the last activity of your third EOI is that your husband failed to get the required band score.

So, what is the status of this third application? Why do you need to "save" your application? Did you receive a formal letter from Immigration that your third application failed again?

These should be the questions you have to have answers before you try re-applying again, whether it be another residency application, or enter NZ as a tourist or student. You have spent considerable money already and you need to have all information at hand before spending money that you will not see again.

By the way, what is you and your husband's skill or profession?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Did you ask him the reason why his name or company is not listed in the IAA roster of registered consultants? - yes, he claimed that he is currently waiting for the approval of his license and he is also a member of NZAMI.

2. You mentioned that the Sampang EOI Team told you that your application was "incorrectly withdrawn" from the pool and that you have to "re-apply" all over again. Did you ask Immigration if this is true or did you just took your consultant's advice in face value? - they gave me a copy of an email from NZIS.

3. You mentioned that when you "re-applied" for EOI (and paid Sampang all over again), and I assume that you were now "correctly selected" from the pool, however, one Kevin Thompson (who I infer is the NZ Immigration visa officer) did not invite you to apply for residency because the points you claimed "were made in error." Did NZ Immigration give you the opportunity to explain or to give additional evidence in order to claim such points? -YES, and according to my consultant, my spouse should be assessed too. But I am not quite sure if how did go about it as he told me he will be the one to answer the correspondences.

4. You mentioned that in April 14, 2006, two years after you were not invited to apply for residency, you had another EOI, this time they (I infer "they" being Sampang) included your spouse to add points. I am confused by this since from my personal experience and the experience of people I know who applied for residency, were you not advised to include your spouse in your first EOI? - He was included, but he is now contributing points from his work experience.

5. Then you mentioned that you almost did not meet the selection criteria for the third time, but now you were able to submit evidence.

6. Then you mentioned that the last activity of your third EOI is that your husband failed to get the required band score.

So, what is the status of this third application? Why do you need to "save" your application? Did you receive a formal letter from Immigration that your third application failed again? - My consultant said it is pending and all application is now pending in Shanghai and if my VO asked for the IELTS result and found out that it did not meet the score requirement, my application will be refused (that is why they have not submitted the result).

These should be the questions you have to have answers before you try re-applying again, whether it be another residency application, or enter NZ as a tourist or student. You have spent considerable money already and you need to have all information at hand before spending money that you will not see again.

By the way, what is you and your husband's skill or profession? - he is a Servicman of the Phil. Navy for 10 years and works for 5 years now as a Commercial Diver based in Singapore.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Did you ask him the reason why his name or company is not listed in the IAA roster of registered consultants? - yes, he claimed that he is currently waiting for the approval of his license and he is also a member of NZAMI.
Does not matter even if he is member of parliament or is BFFs with the Prime Minister. All you should care about is that he should be registered with the IAA before he represents you. He should know better than to pose as a consultant without having the proper license. THE RULES ARE CLEAR: IMMIGRATION WILL NOT ENTERTAIN YOUR APPLICATION IF YOUR CONSULTANT IS NOT LICENSED. SO IF HE TRIES TO CONVINCE YOU TO RE-APPLY AGAIN AND HIRE HIM, YOUR APPLICATION IS AS GOOD AS TRASH IN MY BOOK. If you are flushed with cash that you can hire another consultant, take your business somewhere else or better yet, apply on your own.

2. You mentioned that the Sampang EOI Team told you that your application was "incorrectly withdrawn" from the pool and that you have to "re-apply" all over again. Did you ask Immigration if this is true or did you just took your consultant's advice in face value? - they gave me a copy of an email from NZIS. Did NZIS offer to return your fee since it was error on their part?

3. You mentioned that when you "re-applied" for EOI (and paid Sampang all over again), and I assume that you were now "correctly selected" from the pool, however, one Kevin Thompson (who I infer is the NZ Immigration visa officer) did not invite you to apply for residency because the points you claimed "were made in error." Did NZ Immigration give you the opportunity to explain or to give additional evidence in order to claim such points? -YES, and according to my consultant, my spouse should be assessed too. But I am not quite sure if how did go about it as he told me he will be the one to answer the correspondences.

4. You mentioned that in April 14, 2006, two years after you were not invited to apply for residency, you had another EOI, this time they (I infer "they" being Sampang) included your spouse to add points. I am confused by this since from my personal experience and the experience of people I know who applied for residency, were you not advised to include your spouse in your first EOI? - He was included, but he is now contributing points from his work experience.

5. Then you mentioned that you almost did not meet the selection criteria for the third time, but now you were able to submit evidence.

6. Then you mentioned that the last activity of your third EOI is that your husband failed to get the required band score.

So, what is the status of this third application? Why do you need to "save" your application? Did you receive a formal letter from Immigration that your third application failed again? - My consultant said it is pending and all application is now pending in Shanghai and if my VO asked for the IELTS result and found out that it did not meet the score requirement, my application will be refused (that is why they have not submitted the result).
Then are you just giving up this application currently lodged already because your husband is "too busy" to review for IELTS? Your husband is not the first one who did not reach the required band score, nor will he be the last. You can take IELTS again and again until the required score is met. Some migrants who failed the first time took the time off to review and aced it, and they too had careers as busy as your husband. Being "too busy" or "being abroad" is not a good excuse for due diligence as lots of migrants who had demanding jobs and family life were able to successfully pass the mark and/or migrate on their own merit.

These should be the questions you have to have answers before you try re-applying again, whether it be another residency application, or enter NZ as a tourist or student. You have spent considerable money already and you need to have all information at hand before spending money that you will not see again.

By the way, what is you and your husband's skill or profession? - he is a Servicman of the Phil. Navy for 10 years and works for 5 years now as a Commercial Diver based in Singapore.
Is he the principal applicant, or are you the principal applicant? What is your profession? Have you done your own research to see if your skills and profession are in demand here in NZ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Sampang Immigration Consultancy Reply with quote

Dose Sampang Immigration Consultancy have licensce or permit to be a consultant for applying NZ? ask lang po nag bigay kasi kami ng Cash for our NZQA palang.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Sampang Immigration Consultancy Reply with quote

gracemaribel wrote:
Dose Sampang Immigration Consultancy have licensce or permit to be a consultant for applying NZ? ask lang po nag bigay kasi kami ng Cash for our NZQA palang.


Go to www.iaa.govt.nz and see if Sampang is registered to be a consultant in NZ.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi gracemaribel,according to him, he is waiting for the approval of his license. Are you an existing client, when did you started your application?

Levi, I have done researches about my qualifications. I work in the HR(Recruitment and Job Evaluation).
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think this is a credible agency. most skilled/professional workers leave the country in just a matter of 6 months to a year or so upon consultancy or agency application

I've been to the New Zealand Embassy earlier and have chats with their staff & OIC's there, there are really unscrupulous agencies around. There's an instance that a certain agency owner was caught in the midst of the complainants inside the Embassy and was grabbed for NBI investigation.

Filipinos elsewhere be careful for these agencies. Take Care & God bless our applications =)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xia wrote:
Hi gracemaribel,according to him, he is waiting for the approval of his license. Are you an existing client, when did you started your application?

Levi, I have done researches about my qualifications. I work in the HR(Recruitment and Job Evaluation).


But are foreign trained HR (Recruitment and Job Evaluation) workers in demand here in NZ? I may be wrong, but your profession might not be in demand right now, with the recession and all of that.

I am no HR expert, but you need to evaluate if you are the best person to be the principal applicant, especially if your profession requires first hand knowledge of New Zealand culture, laws or work environment.

However, you mentioned that your husband is a former military man and is currently a commercial diver. New Zealand is surrounded by the sea and its economy relies heavily on it. Have you explored the possibility that your husband's work is skilled and in demand here in NZ, hence having a better chance of getting a skilled job to obtain residency?

I may be wrong, but I think your husband's profession may be more in demand than yours. Of course, he needs to be certified and all of that, but this may be a start of your residency application being easier for you.

Has your husband tried to apply for commercial diver vacancies online?
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