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philidor
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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 Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: questions pag sponsor ng family |
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Para sa mga guru natin. How soon pwdeng mag sponsor ng kapatid? Gano katagal process and requirements. Btw, June09 lang kami na PR.
Meron ako 2kapatid. Younger guy will take his masteral outside pinas w/in d next 2yrs. Bale older sis na lang matitira pinas w/ 3kids and our mom. Plano ko sana isabay yung pag sponsor sa sis ko pagalis ng bro ko. Pwde kaya ganun? |
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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: Re: questions pag sponsor ng family |
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| philidor wrote: | Para sa mga guru natin. How soon pwdeng mag sponsor ng kapatid? Gano katagal process and requirements. Btw, June09 lang kami na PR.
Meron ako 2kapatid. Younger guy will take his masteral outside pinas w/in d next 2yrs. Bale older sis na lang matitira pinas w/ 3kids and our mom. Plano ko sana isabay yung pag sponsor sa sis ko pagalis ng bro ko. Pwde kaya ganun? |
Children and spouses can be sponsored once you get PR. For parents and children, I think you need to have been residents for two years before sponsoring. So in your case you are eligible to sponsor your parent and siblings on June 2011.
The rule to sponsor a sibling is the "home alone rule," meaning the sibling is literally your only member of your nuclear family (father, mother and other siblings) living in the Philippines. Other family members have either died or are living as residents in other overseas countries.
Another requirement is that the sibling must have an offer of work in New Zealand.
For parents like your mum, the rule is "centre of gravity," meaning that more than 50% percent of the children are living permanently abroad (not temporarily such as work visas or scholarship programs). Of the number of children living abroad, the majority of those children must be residents of new zealand.
Best read the information on the immigration website for more information since my opinion might be outdated already.
In your situation, the best option is one of your siblings to apply independently (meaning not sponsored by you as sibling) as a skilled migrant in NZ or secure a work visa then convert it to PR. Once two of you are NZ residents you can sponsor your mum as PR since 50% of her children live in NZ. Once you get your mum, then you sponsor your other sibling since that sibling is now living home alone with no other members of the nuclear family living in the Philippines. That sibling must have a job offer though.
Hope this made sense. |
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chicano
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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the correction. |
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philidor
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys.
Eto isa sa mga gripes ko dito sa nz. madaming laws na hindi logical. like sa sponsor ng siblings, i-sponsor mo na nga, pero dapat eh meron pa din offer of employment before mag qualify. eh di sana diretso na lang nag-apply. sa parents naman yang center of gravity rule.
sa job skills eh hihingan ka or papakuhanin ka ng nz certificate samantalang behind naman ng 5-10 years ang technology dito sa nz and ang daming kiwis na kita mo sa work na a-a na eh e-e pa.
hay.....
merry christmas to all! |
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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| philidor wrote: | Thanks guys.
Eto isa sa mga gripes ko dito sa nz. madaming laws na hindi logical. like sa sponsor ng siblings, i-sponsor mo na nga, pero dapat eh meron pa din offer of employment before mag qualify. eh di sana diretso na lang nag-apply. sa parents naman yang center of gravity rule.
sa job skills eh hihingan ka or papakuhanin ka ng nz certificate samantalang behind naman ng 5-10 years ang technology dito sa nz and ang daming kiwis na kita mo sa work na a-a na eh e-e pa.
hay.....
merry christmas to all! |
Eh ganyan talaga batas nila, wala tayong magagawa kundi sundin diba?
Sa mga puti, wala silang paki-alam kung behind sila or hindi. Why change when the old one is still working?
Saka yung lifestyle daw yung mas important dito, not technology - kung alas singko na, uuwi na sila, kahit di pa tapos yung trabaho, bahala na bukas. Sino ba naman ang ayaw umuwi ng eksaktong 5 p.m diba?
Saka hindi mga material things ang important daw, or kung anong brand, dito simple and lifestyle, sa sobrang simple ok lang na naka-paa kapag naglalakad sa daan. Ayaw mo nun? Di ka gagastos ng mamahaling sapatos? Kahit tag-lamig ok lang mag-paa sa daan. |
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philidor
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hi levi,
Yup, I understand yung environment and rules dito pero I dont agree with it, lalo na sa work ethic. They accept mediocrity just to maintain the status quo. Nakakalungkot kasi walang pride sa trabaho pero grabe ang superiority complex.
I guess di nag a-agree ang personality and lifestyle namin ng wife ko dito sa nz. Kaya nga ngayon pa lang, we're making plans to transfer na. hehehe...
Pero we do need to stay hanggang di pa tapos ng uni ang anak namin- siguro within 4years. So sana ok na nz citizenship namin by then para ma maximize namin return of investment sa pagpunta dito and eventual pag transfer.
As always, opinion ko po ito, iba-iba kasi naman lahat tayo. hehe... baka kasi meron mga malungkot tungkol sa opinion ko dito sa nz. hehe...
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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| philidor wrote: | Hi levi,
Yup, I understand yung environment and rules dito pero I dont agree with it, lalo na sa work ethic. They accept mediocrity just to maintain the status quo. Nakakalungkot kasi walang pride sa trabaho pero grabe ang superiority complex.
I guess di nag a-agree ang personality and lifestyle namin ng wife ko dito sa nz. Kaya nga ngayon pa lang, we're making plans to transfer na. hehehe...
Pero we do need to stay hanggang di pa tapos ng uni ang anak namin- siguro within 4years. So sana ok na nz citizenship namin by then para ma maximize namin return of investment sa pagpunta dito and eventual pag transfer.
As always, opinion ko po ito, iba-iba kasi naman lahat tayo. hehe... baka kasi meron mga malungkot tungkol sa opinion ko dito sa nz. hehe...
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Of course the status quo must be maintained. Why should things change? Change is scary and uncertain. The "lifestyle" and "first-world benefits" that people enjoy might be threatened by change.
As far as people, Kiwi and migrants alike, are concerned, as long as they get their pay cheque fortnightly they are ok with that. Why should you aim for more? People are starving from where you come from unlike here where people are "healthy" and "happy." Your country has a high crime rate, here kids can "play outside the street unsupervised."
If you don't like the country then leave and good riddance to you, go to Australia, the US, Canada or the UK where people work like the proverbial dog and have "no lifestyle and work-life balance." Other migrants will happily take your place in a second.
(You know I'm being sarcastic, right?) |
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philidor
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Nyahaha! No worries levi (hehehe..), sabi ko nga personal opinion. Pero wag muna ako papalitan, di pa kami nz citizen! Sayang passport! Hehe... |
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willie
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | If you don't like the country then leave and good riddance to you, go to Australia, the US, Canada or the UK where people work like the proverbial dog and have "no lifestyle and work-life balance." Other migrants will happily take your place in a second. |
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engr2008
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uhm... Merry Christmas  |
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