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ganniel
Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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 Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:02 am Post subject: HELP!! newbie on nz student visa! |
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hi everyone!
i know these questions have been asked several or a couple of times but sure do hope you would take mine on a different note 
was doing my search on how to enter nz with a student visa and i came across this forum. well, i am a newbie here and wanting to try overseas studies. my questions are:
1. are student visas easy to acquire in nz as long as the documents needed are well prepared, legit and are provided? is the range of difficulty comparable to acquiring F-1 student visa in the usa?
2. when a certain course or certificate is chosen whether or not it is for a year or most probably 6 months, are they evaluating whether the previous degree (i graduated b.a. in public administration and took up post graduate course in b. laws) has a relevant lineage with the course or certificate to be taken? (like leveling up the education e.g. if bs has been incurred, should be masters to be enrolled like the usa)? and lastly,
3. would it matter if the school enrolled in is just a college or an institute or a learning centre and most probably not a university for that matter?
sorry if i got a lot of questions, first hand infos are way much better. thanks in advance!
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wellingtonianbuddy
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: |
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there are two mayor things you need to do:
a. get an offer of place from the university, institute or polytechnic (i.e. the chool where you want to study)
b. pay the school the required fees (you will need the invoice in your visa application along with the offer of a place).
You may then proceed with your student visa application.
| Quote: | | when a certain course or certificate is chosen whether or not it is for a year or most probably 6 months, are they evaluating whether the previous degree (i graduated b.a. in public administration and took up post graduate course in b. laws) has a relevant lineage with the course or certificate to be taken? (like leveling up the education e.g. if bs has been incurred, should be masters to be enrolled like the usa)? and lastly |
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| Quote: | 3. would it matter if the school enrolled in is just a college or an institute or a learning centre and most probably not a university for that matter?
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ganniel
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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wellingtonianbuddy,
wow thanks a lot! i tried applying for student visa in the usa but i got denied because my status and other reasons i don't quite understand them. so i am heading out to oz!
but do u have infos regarding the difficulty of incurring the visa? let's say i got all the documents ready? would it be difficult as compared to the usa visa application procedure?
thanks in advance 
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wellingtonianbuddy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:15 am Post subject: |
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if ur application is well supported, it should be easy-peazy to get approved. NZ needs more international students. just make sure the school/institute accepts international students: you will know in the school's website (usually a tab on international students and the process applicants need to go through).
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ganniel
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: |
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thanks again for the fast reply. one last question though, i am looking at nz's program for student visa/permit wherein if the diploma or certificate is under the migrant skilled category, a person is qualified for permanent jobs and even permanent residency---if for instance i am going to take-up a 5 months certificate in NZIM certificate of management (having a previous degree in b.a. public administration with post-grad in b. laws plus 8 years cumulative part-time and full time work experience) would that make me be qualified for the migrant skilled category or even be offered a permanent full time job?
thanks in advance again!
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levi
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| ganniel wrote: | thanks again for the fast reply. one last question though, i am looking at nz's program for student visa/permit wherein if the diploma or certificate is under the migrant skilled category, a person is qualified for permanent jobs and even permanent residency---if for instance i am going to take-up a 5 months certificate in NZIM certificate of management (having a previous degree in b.a. public administration with post-grad in b. laws plus 8 years cumulative part-time and full time work experience) would that make me be qualified for the migrant skilled category or even be offered a permanent full time job?
thanks in advance again!
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could you enlighten us more on the reasons why your application for a student visa was denied by the new zealand immigration service? coz, chances are, they might be the same reason the department of immigration and citizenship of australia will use to deny your student visa application. nz and australia have somewhat similiar policies regarding immigration. |
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wellingtonianbuddy
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i don't think it works that way. however, there are study programs which entitles one to get a "graduate job search visa" which allows the student to look for a job in NZ after which the student can apply for work permit or lodge a PR application. definitely, a non-degree program will not entitle you to that incentive.
the advantage however, is you can start job hunting whilst you are in your 6-months course, and if you are lucky, get a job then apply for a work permit. |
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wellingtonianbuddy
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sorry for the late reply. i was in the noisy and relatively 'dusty'* streets of auckland for a couple of days (for a job interview which I missed courtesy of the messed up/delayed flights of Qantas!)
i don't think it works that way. however, there are study programs which entitles one to get a "graduate job search visa" which allows the student to look for a job in NZ after which the student can apply for work permit or lodge a PR application. definitely, a non-degree program will not entitle you to that incentive.
the advantage however, is you can start job hunting whilst you are in your 6-months course, and if you are lucky, get a job then apply for a work permit.
*I notice the soles of my shoes are very dark/black after walking in the footpaths of auckland. i never get that kind of dirt in wellington's footpaths. is it my shoes or auckland is just relatively more polluted than welly? |
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ganniel
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:44 am Post subject: |
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hi again!
sorry that it took me awhile to give you a response and clarify things, i got caught up with tons of work. uhm it wasn't australian student visa that i was denied but actually a United States of America f-1 student visa. i got all the financial documents, i was accepted by the university (for legitimacy of documents and supporting papers---i am so ready and even, polished/scratch free). but surprisingly i got denied. firstly, they think i am going to ran off when i get there since i am single, female and no children (making me under their "high-risk" category). i was contemplating to go there for a master's degree program for a year but when the consul asked me questions regarding my personal status (single, not married etc.), outrightly he said he's "afraid" i might not use the visa as it is inteded it to be. so, since my intention is really to study, i am now going through opportunities in new zealand---still as a student. but then, i want to be strategic and wise as well, since looking through NZ''s website regarding student visa, they are more welcoming (the official website is even more informative and infos are easily accessible) that is why i was also wondering if in case i can work while i study as well to save some money.
sir, with this circumstances, what would be the best strategy for me to do in order to have an international degree or diploma or certificate (most probably considering the NZIM certificate or to have a master's degree as well) and at the same time work for a year maybe or less?
thank you so much sir wellingtonianbuddy for reading through my long background (hope that it's a challenge to get through it and not a bore hehehehe). appreciate it!
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ganniel
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| oh by the way, i am not really into becoming a citizen or staying there for long, but just for work or even a PR maybe (i guess i'll see when i like it there) but primarily to get an education so i can still enter the USA for my family. thanks. |
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willie
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| Hi ganniel, do you mean your real intention was to study in the US then come back to the Philippines? Are you saying that your main purpose is to study but you don’t know yet whether you want a masteral degree, diploma or a certificate? Are you just considering NZ so you can join your family in the US? Sorry, I’m just confused. |
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ganniel
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| oh sorry if i confused you more. nope, of course, my main intention really is to further my studies (take up masters or a certificate or a diploma -- whichever is easier and not longer). the first country of consideration was the US but since i got denied then i looked for another country and i have drawn down to new zealand (for student visa) which offers good education and also opportunity to work and even be a PR. i hope i was able to clear that out. thanks again! |
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ganniel
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| i guess what i need to know is that, with all the foregoing circumstances i have mentioned, will i be easily granted a student visa and work at the same time? what are my chances? i am thinking of whether to get masters (1 year) or a post-grad certificate or diploma (6-12 months). also, if there are any infos i should know which (from your best judgemnet) would help me out in going there in NX. thanks in advance! |
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willie
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| Goodluck. |
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levi
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| ganniel wrote: | | i guess what i need to know is that, with all the foregoing circumstances i have mentioned, will i be easily granted a student visa and work at the same time? what are my chances? i am thinking of whether to get masters (1 year) or a post-grad certificate or diploma (6-12 months). also, if there are any infos i should know which (from your best judgemnet) would help me out in going there in NX. thanks in advance! |
if you are successful in obtaining a student visa, you are entitled to study and do part-time work during the duration of your stay.
Two things you need to remember: international students pay at least 3 to 4 times more than domestic students (i.e. citizens and permanent residents) and you are only entitled to work up to 12 hours a week (very important). |
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