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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| wellingtonianbuddy wrote: | | Quote: | | needing an emergency accommodation?—does this happen a lot in Wellington? Do you think Pinoys in NZ (or any other country) are obliged to give emergency accommodation to kapwa Pinoys whether you know them or not? |
you obviously don't know what's going on.
obliged?--no one is obliged. but when one announces his/her willingness to offer help (albeit in a superficial manner) but fails to do so when many situations called for it.....I can only say what an ass$ol#! |
Yeah, that's a bummer all right, but in time you will learn to weed out what's sincere and what "shoptalk" and polite conversation greased by a generous heaping of pancit, caldereta and bilo-bilo on social occasions.
With my own Pinoy group, we have some unwritten rules - things we don't talk about, do, or suggest to avoid awkward situations later on.
My husband has two other Pinoy workmates - they were college buddies and go way back and kept in touch; neither of them approached my husband or one another asking for a professional recommendation since they were not workmates back in Manila. Each had to ask their former bosses for a professional and/or character reference and they got skilled jobs. Despite the fact that they haven't vouched each other professionally, they still get along fine and work as a team, except during counterstrike lan parties (can't believe 30-something guys still take counterstrike seriously!). |
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willie
Joined: 21 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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and who the F^&k is the good Samaritan you are talking about? I'm curious because I do not consider myself as a Samaritan , or good for that matter.
Then for you it’s not you. Let other readers decide on who they think or want the good Samaritan to be.
you obviously don't know what's going on.
obliged?--no one is obliged. but when one announces his/her willingness to offer help (albeit in a superficial manner) but fails to do so when many situations called for it.....I can only say what an ass$ol#!
Obviously not, that’s why I’m asking if it happens a lot in Wellington. Did they willingly offer to give “emergency accommodation” help? Or just help? They might have helped in other ways you don’t know which is still help. One maybe willing to help but within their capacity and that's what we don't know. But you sound like you know everything--so be it.
Let the mayayabangs be judged by the ones directly affected by their kayabangan—probably those who needed “emergency accommodation” and was declined. |
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maccie
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as for me.. i have a bad experience seeking help from kababayans here in wellington...
before coming here i contacted some pinoys in welly for accommodation.. they said they will be charging me 250 for a room in johnsonville.. for me it is so expensive for an unfurnished single room.. (but said other utilities included)..
only to find out when i searched trademe i got a fully furnished single room in wellington cbd at 120 NZD (including utilities).. IMAGINE THAT!!! |
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acfrancia
Joined: 26 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: Pinoy na Pinoy |
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I am new to this site...and expecting a bit of information about what to do and my expectations when I get there in NZ....and the way things are going here at this site....I definitely feel Pinoy na Pinoy itong site na ito...he he....I guess you all know what I mean...peace po sa lahat at sana po eh magkaintindihan at magkatulungan ang lahat ng Pilipino...it is just sad that sometimes...WE would want the Philippines to be a better place but we have to go to other countries to experience what a Better Place should be. I hope that in 20 years time or so...we would have the chance to go back to our own country and be really proud of what we are as a people and as a country. Not just having this superficial pride of being Filipino, and still we are outside the Philippines working to develop and benefit another country of our talents, embracing their culture and telling other people we are half spanih/half whatever. Sana eh sa mga susunod na panahon...ang Pilipinas naman ang target na puntahan ng ibang lahi for immigration and for visits and it will not only be known in France where most of their Pedophiles go, or filipinos as maids as most of the British people think, and a 3rd world country as what the rest of the world consider us...sana po eh pagpunta ko sa NZ,,,,mabalitaan ko isang araw na ang Pilipinas ay isa nang bansa where Filipino Christians, Non Catholics, Muslims, straight, gays have equal rights. That we have one of the least corrupt govt. in the world. No war at the south, no discrimination to gays (no slapstick tv programs depicting gays as sexual deviants and abnormal people), promdis, muslims, disabled, dark skinned, and to the other ethnic minority groups.
Sana po eh lahat ng yan eh ma achieve natin as Filipinos...not because we want to have this kind of society in other "developed" countries...but also in the Philippines as well...
mabuhay po tayong lahat at sana po eh makamtan natin ang goals natin when we go to a country that is not ours but is ready to embrace us because we want to have something more that we believe we dont have in our own country...
ingat po lagi sa inyong lahat...at salamat sa lahat ng information |
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wellingtonianbuddy
Joined: 02 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | as for me.. i have a bad experience seeking help from kababayans here in wellington...
before coming here i contacted some pinoys in welly for accommodation.. they said they will be charging me 250 for a room in johnsonville.. for me it is so expensive for an unfurnished single room.. (but said other utilities included)..
only to find out when i searched trademe i got a fully furnished single room in wellington cbd at 120 NZD (including utilities).. IMAGINE THAT!!! |
hmmm, yours is just tip of the iceberg. if i put what i have witnessed/experienced into writing, it would fill one good volume of stories. |
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wellingtonianbuddy
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Sana eh sa mga susunod na panahon...ang Pilipinas naman ang target na puntahan ng ibang lahi for immigration and for visits and it will not only be known in France where most of their Pedophiles go, or filipinos as maids as most of the British people think, and a 3rd world country as what the rest of the world consider us |
i wish i still have your level of optimism. i've lost mine long long ago. i admire you though.
| Quote: | sana po eh pagpunta ko sa NZ,,,,mabalitaan ko isang araw na ang Pilipinas ay isa nang bansa where Filipino Christians, Non Catholics, Muslims, straight, gays have equal rights. That we have one of the least corrupt govt. in the world. No war at the south, no discrimination to gays (no slapstick tv programs depicting gays as sexual deviants and abnormal people), promdis, muslims, disabled, dark skinned, and to the other ethnic minority groups.
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this would be fantasy... |
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philidor
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: Re: Pinoy na Pinoy |
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| acfrancia wrote: | I am new to this site...and expecting a bit of information about what to do and my expectations when I get there in NZ....and the way things are going here at this site....I definitely feel Pinoy na Pinoy itong site na ito...he he....I guess you all know what I mean...peace po sa lahat at sana po eh magkaintindihan at magkatulungan ang lahat ng Pilipino...it is just sad that sometimes...WE would want the Philippines to be a better place but we have to go to other countries to experience what a Better Place should be. I hope that in 20 years time or so...we would have the chance to go back to our own country and be really proud of what we are as a people and as a country. Not just having this superficial pride of being Filipino, and still we are outside the Philippines working to develop and benefit another country of our talents, embracing their culture and telling other people we are half spanih/half whatever. Sana eh sa mga susunod na panahon...ang Pilipinas naman ang target na puntahan ng ibang lahi for immigration and for visits and it will not only be known in France where most of their Pedophiles go, or filipinos as maids as most of the British people think, and a 3rd world country as what the rest of the world consider us...sana po eh pagpunta ko sa NZ,,,,mabalitaan ko isang araw na ang Pilipinas ay isa nang bansa where Filipino Christians, Non Catholics, Muslims, straight, gays have equal rights. That we have one of the least corrupt govt. in the world. No war at the south, no discrimination to gays (no slapstick tv programs depicting gays as sexual deviants and abnormal people), promdis, muslims, disabled, dark skinned, and to the other ethnic minority groups.
Sana po eh lahat ng yan eh ma achieve natin as Filipinos...not because we want to have this kind of society in other "developed" countries...but also in the Philippines as well...
mabuhay po tayong lahat at sana po eh makamtan natin ang goals natin when we go to a country that is not ours but is ready to embrace us because we want to have something more that we believe we dont have in our own country...
ingat po lagi sa inyong lahat...at salamat sa lahat ng information |
will never happen. deeply rooted na sa Pinoy culture ang mga issues mo. |
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acfrancia
Joined: 26 Feb 2009
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To wellingtonianbuddy and philidor,
Thank you for expressing your sentiments about the Philippines in general. It's just sad that most of us think that way. Although a "Dream" is entirely different from a "Fantasy". We should not forget that years ago...countries in the West (e.g. Romania, Germany..) were ruled by the communists but look how far they have gone into replacing their govts...that in the 70's and earlier...black people in America were regarded differently and check who is now their president...a man of mix black and white heritage..that we have inherited our conservative Catholic religious culture from Spain for about 300 years and it is one of the first countries who have embraced same sex partnership. People thought that it was a "fantasy" to go to the moon and so many other "unbelievable" things that people never thought would have happened...(e.g...internet!). They were not fantasies but dreams that have become reality. The world is fast changing.
Filipinos are educated, reselient, brave and hardworking people. Giving up on our country and on our society as a whole is probably one of the saddest thing I ever hear; much more from other Filipinos who have seen parts of the changing world. I think, eventhough at one point in our lives...however we have adapted to our "new" country, however we look at our children and how they sound differently when they speak english with the kiwi, aussie or american accent, we should never forget that there is always hope for change in the Philippines and somehow..even how long it would take....the course will always be ...to change for the better....and I guess...it is our responsibility to impart what we think is good for our country as what we have experienced and seen in other countries...
I read from a good book : " The worst that might happen to a person is to end up a cynic"....
that I believe is true...
hoep all is well...
I apologize if I am out of the topic now but will probably stick to just observing and getting some infos about NZ from this website...they are really helpful...thank you again to everybody... |
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chrisv
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| To acfrancia: You got it right! It is quite sad that since some pinoys have already reached the greener pasture they seem to forget who they are and what they are. This is one reason that I cant entirely understand the pinoy traits. But one thing I can surely understand though: ang pinoy nagkakaisa sa tsismisan at paninira, pero nagkawatakwatak sa panahon ng pakikibaka at pagtutulungan. |
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philidor
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| acfrancia wrote: | To wellingtonianbuddy and philidor,
Thank you for expressing your sentiments about the Philippines in general. It's just sad that most of us think that way. Although a "Dream" is entirely different from a "Fantasy". We should not forget that years ago...countries in the West (e.g. Romania, Germany..) were ruled by the communists but look how far they have gone into replacing their govts...that in the 70's and earlier...black people in America were regarded differently and check who is now their president...a man of mix black and white heritage..that we have inherited our conservative Catholic religious culture from Spain for about 300 years and it is one of the first countries who have embraced same sex partnership. People thought that it was a "fantasy" to go to the moon and so many other "unbelievable" things that people never thought would have happened...(e.g...internet!). They were not fantasies but dreams that have become reality. The world is fast changing.
Filipinos are educated, reselient, brave and hardworking people. Giving up on our country and on our society as a whole is probably one of the saddest thing I ever hear; much more from other Filipinos who have seen parts of the changing world. I think, eventhough at one point in our lives...however we have adapted to our "new" country, however we look at our children and how they sound differently when they speak english with the kiwi, aussie or american accent, we should never forget that there is always hope for change in the Philippines and somehow..even how long it would take....the course will always be ...to change for the better....and I guess...it is our responsibility to impart what we think is good for our country as what we have experienced and seen in other countries...
I read from a good book : " The worst that might happen to a person is to end up a cynic"....
that I believe is true...
hoep all is well...
I apologize if I am out of the topic now but will probably stick to just observing and getting some infos about NZ from this website...they are really helpful...thank you again to everybody... |
that's just it. you're comparing pinas to other countries. every country has its own culture, its own history, its own resources and its own people. comparing one with another is useless. If anyone was offended when I wrote that the issues you mentioned were already deeply rooted in the Filipino culture, I was not being a cynic but a realist.
btw, that thing about landing on the moon, you really believe that? americans landing on the moon in the 70s, then doing absolutely nothing to follow that up?! really now |
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wellingtonianbuddy
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| Quote: | I read from a good book : " The worst that might happen to a person is to end up a cynic"....
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In my book I may write:
"Believing on something that one knows will not happen nor come
is like inhaling opium to elude
the stark reality
of one's space and time." |
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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| wellingtonianbuddy wrote: | | Quote: | I read from a good book : " The worst that might happen to a person is to end up a cynic"....
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In my book I may write:
"Believing on something that one knows will not happen nor come
is like inhaling opium to elude
the stark reality
of one's space and time." |
Oh I like this game! My fave quote:
"A sucker is born every minute." - PT Barnum |
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sweetheart
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| willie wrote: | Thanks for the clarification aklamc & engr2008. So the visitor’s visa converting it to work permit is almost the same as student visa converting it to work permit—that makes sense. It will be more expensive and risky but faster—If immigration can convert visitors (main purpose is to visit and not to work) and/or student (main purpose is to study and not to work) visas to work permits then that means it’s allowed in a way. Thanks for the clarification.
Different ways for different people—it’s good to be well informed. SMC process might not be for everybody so there are other ways like visitor’s visa, student visa and business/investment category (which I would think will be the most expensive one). Another fast and easy way is to marry somebody with PR visa already—hehehe.
Thanks again! |
im just read your post.. if the guy is PR already and im visitors visa card holder its okei if we get married it is possible that i can stay there for long and apply PR to after. |
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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| sweetheart wrote: | | willie wrote: | Thanks for the clarification aklamc & engr2008. So the visitor’s visa converting it to work permit is almost the same as student visa converting it to work permit—that makes sense. It will be more expensive and risky but faster—If immigration can convert visitors (main purpose is to visit and not to work) and/or student (main purpose is to study and not to work) visas to work permits then that means it’s allowed in a way. Thanks for the clarification.
Different ways for different people—it’s good to be well informed. SMC process might not be for everybody so there are other ways like visitor’s visa, student visa and business/investment category (which I would think will be the most expensive one). Another fast and easy way is to marry somebody with PR visa already—hehehe.
Thanks again! |
im just read your post.. if the guy is PR already and im visitors visa card holder its okei if we get married it is possible that i can stay there for long and apply PR to after. |
Yes, with conditions. |
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sweetheart
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| pls help me im a visitors holder and i meet a guy who is PR already in NZ and he want to marry me. Do you think it will conflict. and my other question is it will possible also that i can stay long there my tourist visa expire next month. pls help me |
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