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dada_RN



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: pinoy RN to NZ RN Reply with quote

anyone here who is wishing to be an NZ RN??
I hope we can share our views. Is there anyone under a consultancy firm? Nag sign up kasi ako with it. Nightingale Immigration consultancy.. does any one already signed up with this? mukha naman ok.. their fee is much lesser compared to others. and i know some na nandun na sa NZ thru it.
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chicano



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow panay ang advertisement ng immigration consultant na yan ah. kilala mo rin ba si suzanne ,zie_rn , karen , sam_rn.? why use a consultant when u can read all the requirements at www.nursingcouncil.org.nz?

you are posting from SMART BRO Batangas, using IE7 and Vista.
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dada_RN



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chicano wrote:
wow panay ang advertisement ng immigration consultant na yan ah. kilala mo rin ba si suzanne ,zie_rn , karen , sam_rn.? why use a consultant when u can read all the requirements at www.nursingcouncil.org.nz?

you are posting from SMART BRO Batangas, using IE7 and Vista.


di ko kilala e. I am not advertising for that consultancy firm, di naman nila ako binabayaran for that. I was just asking kung meron din dito na under with them, its good to know kung my kasama/ kapareha ka ng pinag dadaanan.. at least we can both share our plans of being RN sa new zealand. I am just trying to befriend if theres anyone with same situation so if nasa NZ na kame dito palang sa pinas magkakilala na kame. yun lang naman yun chicano.
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chicano



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ganun ba pasensya na. BTW sino nga pala ang contact mo dun sa consultancy firm na yan? Baka ma irecommend ko din sa iba kung okay nga.

bakit me nakita akong post sa allnurses.com na Sam_RN ang name. same lang ang content sa post mo na isa . weird no ..

from the allnurses forum


hi guys!

i am also an RN, wishing to be a registered nurse in NZ. i recommend Nightingale immigration consultancy. Currently, i am waiting for school advise that i am ok for competence programme rnrolment (bridging course).. we need this to be a new zealand registered nurse.

I am under this consultancy firm bec they wont get any amount out of my salary once working there because i have the control of my money,, i mean i paid the school fees here in PH.. and you will not be stucked with unfair work contracts.. The consultancy firm will guide and help u with all the necessary procedures in becoming an NZ RN (application, enrollment in an accredited school, visa, accomodation, etc).. not a caregiver in NZ
goodluck to all


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dada_RN



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just want to do my share of keeping fellow RNs away from those recruiters. I heard a lot of stories na ginagawang care giver lang sa NZ ang mga filipino nurses dito at my contrata pa na 3yrs as care giver. Hindi dapat yun ang nangyayari.I am not advertising in anyway, i just share my experience thru that consultancy firm. It is managed by a new zealander nurse. Kasi naman ang pinoy napaka crab mentality,mas mapag kakatiwalaan pa ang foreignre kesa kapwa pinoy.



chicano wrote:
Ah ganun ba pasensya na. BTW sino nga pala ang contact mo dun sa consultancy firm na yan? Baka ma irecommend ko din sa iba kung okay nga.

bakit me nakita akong post sa allnurses.com na Sam_RN ang name. same lang ang content sa post mo na isa . weird no ..

from the allnurses forum


hi guys!

i am also an RN, wishing to be a registered nurse in NZ. i recommend Nightingale immigration consultancy. Currently, i am waiting for school advise that i am ok for competence programme rnrolment (bridging course).. we need this to be a new zealand registered nurse.

I am under this consultancy firm bec they wont get any amount out of my salary once working there because i have the control of my money,, i mean i paid the school fees here in PH.. and you will not be stucked with unfair work contracts.. The consultancy firm will guide and help u with all the necessary procedures in becoming an NZ RN (application, enrollment in an accredited school, visa, accomodation, etc).. not a caregiver in NZ
goodluck to all


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chicano



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anong name ng nagmamanage na nZ nurse if i may ask? saka share ka naman kung magkano ang bayad mo na consultation fee. ikaw rin ba si sam_RN sa allnurses na forum? kasi parehong parehong ang post. tapos sabi mo di mo kilala yun sam_Rn?
So anong stage ka na ba sa application mo? Wala namang manloloko kung walang nagpapaloko di ba? siguro alam din ng ibang pinoy na caregiver ang role na labas nila sa NZ kasi lam nila na mag aaral lang sila dun ng HCA...kung me approval naman siguro ng narsing council , RN talaga ang labas nila.

bakit mo naman nasabi na mas mapapagkatiwalaan ang foreigner kesa kapwa pinoy? di ba yan ang colonial mentality.

salamat sa concern mo sa mga kababayan natin.
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willie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was posted in another thread.

The real deal on the situation of Filipino nurses in New Zealand
(Please read if you are a nurse thinking of working in New Zealand.)



Filipino nurses have been coming to New Zealand for some years now but the reality of their situation is not always appreciated. Below are some of the difficulties they face:

1. Debt: The recruiting agents (usually Filipino) charge excessive fees often for very little, sometimes only lodging a work permit. Some lend the nurses money at high interest for purchasing airfares, finding accommodation and jobs and upskilling at a tertiary institution in nursing competency. Many nurses begin their working life in New Zealand owing $5,000-6,000 USD to these agents. Some agents refer nurses to borrow from “crediting firms” ( essentially loan sharks) which charge astronomical interest rates of as much as 4% per month (40% per annum).

2. Misinformation: These agents often provide misinformation about the nature of the employment in New Zealand. Nurses are told they will be working in a hospital in New Zealand. However, on arrival most find they are to be employed in aged care homes, as caregivers to old people, unable to utilise most of their nursing training, unable to keep up their clinical hours and earning half what they had counted on. They have no choice but to stay because they are bonded to the agents for up to three years to pay back their loans.

Other misinformation given is that nurses cannot join unions which is completely
wrong. Union membership is a democratic right in New Zealand and it also
provides indemnity insurance for any accidents at work. It is not
dangerous to join a union in New Zealand.

3. Overwork: The nurses have to work very hard, sometimes working double shifts in order to pay back loans. Shifts are changed at short notice making it difficult to have any kind of social life.

4. Crowded living arrangements : Nurses are often forced into crowded living arrangements because that is all they can afford.

5. Expensive English exams: The Nursing Council of New Zealand requires all nurses working in hospitals to pass the Academic IELTS exam with 7 across all bands. This is expensive to sit and the reading section is extremely difficult. Many good Filipino nurses find themselves unable to get into hospital work because of this screen. You are encouraged to sit the IELTS exam in the Philippines before travelling to New Zealand. It is much cheaper, and the processes are easier.

For valid concerns (please do not overwhelm with impertinent queries) contact migrante_nz@yahoo.co.nz or a Wellington-based support group, Wellington Kiwi Pinoy at kinoywgtn@gmail.com.

The New Zealand nurses union is at www.nzno.org.nz.

The good news is that one of the district health boards which runs hospitals and other health services has signed up to a deal with the POEA to bring Filipino nurses here directly and thereby cut out the recruiting agents. If you can get into one of these DHB schemes, then do so because your airfare, initial accommodation and your nursing upskilling is paid for by the DHB and you are guaranteed real nursing work for two years. You don’t need an agent, simply speak to the POEA about it. However, you must have Academic IELTS 7 to be employed. Again: it is easier to sit this exam in the Philippines than in New Zealand so take the exam before you come.

New Zealand is a great place and we need Filipino nurses but make sure you are fully informed before you leave the Philippines. Don’t get “taken for a ride” by recruiting agents because it is very hard to take any action against them after the fact. They are operating at the very margins of the law but they are clever enough to stay within it.

I hope this helps.
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wellingtonianbuddy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great timing, Willie.

I met a few pinoy RN ladies yesterday at the Wellington railway station. They are studying for their bridging course to get their accreditation as well as IELTS exams. They are on student visa.
They do have a consultant who even arranged for their accomodation and studies when they got here. When I asked them how much they shelled out so far, they all laughed, then silence followed, and a deep breathe. They did not elaborate.

They did share, however, that they are worried because the preceding batch (i.e. ahead of them)do not have work visa yet.The message I got is that the work visa is under application. Anyway, we had a good laughed when they all missed their train. I hope they get the desires of their heart. They are very good people- thinking of nothing but their families back home. I reckon they gonna be great nurses, too.

Anyway, I had an insider info. from a former colleague that the nursing council may be revising
its policies to reflect current demands of the Nz healthcare industry. (hospitals have been complaining of scarcity of nurses and doctors).
i hope the changes will be favourable to pinoy RNs who wish to work and live in NZ.
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engr2008



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nurses are in demand in NZ.

There's even a hospital in Auckland looking for staff for their recently constructed buildings.

Nurses who can't meet the required IELTS score end up as caregivers or healthcare assistants.

If you're a nurse and you're still in the Phils., get at least a year of hospital experience, pass the IELTS and complete the other requirements for NZ Nursing registration. Avoid recruitment agencies if you can.
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wellingtonianbuddy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst it is true that nurses may end up working as caregivers or healthcare assistants, such level of job does not support one's application for work visa, moreso, permanent residence.
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engr2008



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wellingtonianbuddy wrote:
Whilst it is true that nurses may end up working as caregivers or healthcare assistants, such level of job does not support one's application for work visa, moreso, permanent residence.


True.

And they don't earn much too. Caregivers usually earn NZD 12-16/hr depending on location and employers.

That's why it is important to complete all basic requirements before coming to NZ.
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deckyjoe



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi guys! just wanted you all to know that i am also applying as an NZ nurse under the services of an agency. i will not name the agency as i dont want to be accused of advertising. from my point of view, NZ does need nurses. however, ALL foreign nurses need to go thru CAP, after that, that's the only time that the nursing council will allow you to work as a nurse.

right now i already got my first letter from the council. they are already reviewing all my other documents (transcript, liscense, PRC papers, IELTS results etc) and hopefully i'll be getting the 2nd letter before the holidays. that letter would include instructions that i'll need to go through CAP before i can work as a nurse. after getting the 2nd letter, my agency will deal with the papers for my school in NZ as well as accomodations, student visa ,and a temp. job while i'm doing my CAP.
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