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dudeitsarlene
Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 17
Location: Hamilton, New Zealand
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 Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: Fiancee tourist visa |
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| Hello. Any one here familiar with the process or can share her experience on the subject? Will appreciate it. |
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mariacharinag
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
Posts: 44
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Arlene.
I am married to a Kiwi for 5 years now and I came here on a Fiancee tourist visa.
I first applied as a tourist just to see how our relationship will work in his side of the world and meet his family. But my visa application was denied.
I then applied for a fiancee visa and had to submit pages and pages of proof of our relationship such as telephone cards, telephone bills, letters, cards, pages of e-mails to each other (edited, of course! Haha!).
And we were both interviewed separately.
I was also asked to submit "certificate of non-marriage" from the census which took 3 weeks, could have been more if I did not bribe someone inside.
My husband also had to book our wedding and submitted to the visa officer the copy of paperworks.
It was tough because it undergoing intense scrutiny. And only because the immigration had been dealing with a lot of "mail-order brides" and other kind of partnership that are dubious. And I only know that because I had been working as an immigration officer for 4 years and resigned only two weeks ago.
I hope this info helps.
Regards,
Maria |
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darna
Joined: 04 Aug 2005
Posts: 11
Location: Manila
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Arlene,
I have been thru the process and fortunately got my residency na.
Been married to my Kiwi hubby for 15 months now. Been granted residency 4 months after lodging the application.
If your applying for a fiancee visa the one they will give you at first is a visitor's visa mostly good for 9 months( that's the longest as far I remember)
If you're going at the NZ embassy sa Makati they will give you guidelines of what documents that you need to submit then pagkasumbit they will give you a ring for an interview schedule(dapat minsan masipag ka din magfollow up baka abutin ka siyam siyam sa kakaantay ng tawag)
I might be lucky as I never been interviewed back then Dec '05 or even here when I applied for a working visa and residency as the visa officer was quite satisfied with the documents I submitted but mostly me interview talaga minsan pati si fiance pa.
What are the documents to submit?
1. If your working it helps a lot if you submit a certificate of employment.(since visitor's visa and inaplayan mo you need to establish pa rin kahit papano na me uuwian ka pa sa Phils.
2. One more bank statement. Showing bank transfer from him It helps alot too na me financial support si BF or si husband good point to prove a relationship. But in my case (me nag-advise lang sa akin di me sure if nakatulong talaga) I submitted both. My own savings account (if meron to prove na your a good earner that you can support yourself pogi points daw kase to that in case in the future di ka burden lang ng country nila) and yung bank account na pinapadalahan ni fiance that time.
3. Emails, as in marami i printed the summary (gumawa me ng folder ng emails nia) ilang pages din yun. Average kase ng 5 times a day mag-exchangehan kami ng emails. Then pumili me ng emails na puro lovey dovey things, commitments discussions, weddings preparations, baby planning etc. Emails also from his family. His mother kc and I been constantly exchanging emails too.)Unedited po he he he.
4. Messenger chats: Nasa messages history ko both YM and MSN. Nagprint lang me ng summary to show that we talk everyday too.
5. Phone billings. Buti nakapostpaid plan ako sa Smart. Nakaregister lahat ng text replies with time and date(not the message itself)
6. Text messages buti me high tech na cp na ngayon that you can upload all your messages in the computer showing the message, time and date din)
7. Yung mga hotel registrations namin nung holidays namin together nung visit nia.
8. Pictures together sa mga travel most important yung pictures with your family and friends. (to prove me family acknowledgement yung relationship) I made like a scrapbook with all captions bout the events and dates.
9. Pictures during chat. pwede kase iprint screen showing yung window ng chat na nandun yung message and yung mukha nyo dalawa(i mean nakawebcam kayo pareho)I have done this using msn naman.
10. Letter of support from his family and friends pati na rin from yours. Nakilala kase cia almost ng mga relatives ko din and friends so nanghingi me ng letters (saying na welcome sia sa family etc. (to prove tunay talaga relationship)
11. Cards din and snail mails actually mas prefer nila to but since high tech na ngayon ok na rin mga emails.
12. By the time na nag-apply kase ako ng visa susunduin nia ako kasama ang mother nia to visit na din my family so nagsubmit me ng travel itenerary nila kung anong airlines when darating when aalis etc. Inshort sabay sabay kami bumalik ng New Zealand.
From 1 to 12 hindi yan sasabihin sayo na isubmit mo except yung mga letters and pictures. But helps a lot as you want to prove a genuine and stable relationship and that is likely to endure and lifetime commitment.
Yung nasa list ng embassy naman ay mga sumusunod:
1. Certificate of no Impediment if binata sia( yan ang sinubmit ko) or Divorce Certificate if ofcourse married dati)
2. Birth cerificate mo yung galing sa census (NSO)
3. Proof of his NZ citizenship like his passport or birth certificate.
4. Sponsorship form signed by the bank (to prove me pera pangsupport sayo)and certified by the Justice of Peace (me iba pang pwedeng magcertify tingnan na lang sa form itself nandun)anyway $400 yata pag aacommodate ka nia and $1000 if sarili mo accomodation say maghotel ka( living expenses allowance yan) multiplied by the number of months na isstay mo dun. Pwede family nia ang magsponsor din. Me nakilala kase me na pinay dito since wala work yung hubby nia father in law ang nagsponsor.
5. If aacomodate ka nia need magsubmit ng house title or home mortgage paper to prove na me house nga sia or tenancy agreement if nagrerent lang cia.
6. Travel itenerary mo, me mga travel agency naman na di nagchacharge ng certification (showing exact date ng in and out mo ng NZ) dapat talaga iprove na babalik ka ng Pinas kase nga visitor's visa lang ang inaaplyan. (syempre kahit wla ka naman tlagang balak gaya ko nun, meron pag resident na ko he he he)
7. Certificate from NSO na single ka (Certification of No Marriage hindi yata sia req't pero sagsubmit ako.)
8. NBI Clearance and local police certificates pati nga barangay clearance nagsubmit ako.
9. Passport pictures current not older than 6 months old.
10. Passport mo should not expire for 3 months after ng date na aalis ka na ng NZ.
11. Medical Certificate Temporary Chest Xray if more than 6 months or full medical if intend mo magstay for 12 months. If plano nyo na iconvert after awhile yung visa mo to working visa magpafull medical ka na sa Phils (though by the time na nag-aaply ka ng working visa dapat di pa expired yung medical good for six months lang kase. ) Once na nakarating ka ng NZ pwede ka na apply naman ng working permit habang fresh pa ika nga ang medical mo. Nangyari kase sa akin I applied for 6 months visitor’s visa but was granted 9 months, so temp medical lang kinuha ko but after 2 months in NZ nag-apply me ng working permit and req’t ang full medical. Sobra mahal magpamedical dito lalo na foreigner nga ang category mo. Napamahal tuloy ako. Usually binibigay na working permit naman good for 1 year.
One more tip be organized sa pagsubmit mo ng papers. What I did with my papers is binind ko and me table of contents pa ko ginawa and me labels per category sa gilid so pwede buksan say emails lang gusto iverify or pictures etc. So kinalabasan ang kapal ng binded files ko di nga kumasya sa butas ng window sa embassy sa Manila(where sinisilid yung documents na inaabot sa VO). But got a quite positive comment from the visa officer that my documents quite organized and they were very satisfied.
Tips naman if sakaling me-interview.
Try to relax lang and answer them if possible yung tutuo kase nerbyusin ka pag nagsinungaling. Minsan syempre me whitelies para maganda tingnan ba. Try to make questionnaires na irereview nyo pareho just in case interviewhin din sia. Sabi most common questions are pano nagkakilala, gaano yung commitment, pano yung relationship mo sa future inlaws etc. Good if kilala nyo pareho parents, kapatid , mga pamangkin minsan ilang pinsan, aunt’s etc. Just in case itanong to measure gaano mo talaga sia kilala. Nilista naming pareho yan nagsubmitan din kami ng some infos na minsan di masyado importante like san nag-aral since elementary ha, yung work history, ilan naging relationships before nagging kami and why naghiwalay sa mga ex’s, ano yung mga main hobbies, pati favourite food, music, color etc (thou syempre along the relationship malalaman mo naman mga yan) just in case lang para pareho tlaga kami ng sagot. Somebody advised me then to learn about New Zealand so research pa me and basa basa bout the country it might sound silly but sinabihan din me aralin ang Treaty of Waitangi labag man sa loob ko inaral ko. In short sobrang prepared ako sa interview lahat iadvise sa akin ginagawa ko pero parang di naman talaga angkop tong aral ng Treaty.
Im really trying to be helpful lam ko ang feeling kase tinry ko lahat ng possible sources of info during those time lahat na yata ng forum going to NZ jinoinan ko. I been posting questions here but that time wla me nakuhang ganitong response. I promised myself na pag me nagtanong ulit I will give all possible details I could give. Hope this really help a lot.
Pag asa NZ kana just pm me I will help you again how to go thru working permit and residency application.
haba po ano whew.... |
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dudeitsarlene
Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 17
Location: Hamilton, New Zealand
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: Fiancee tourist visa |
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| Wow, thank you very much. These mean a lot. I really appreciate them. All the best. -- Arlene |
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chad_rbv
Joined: 15 Oct 2006
Posts: 10
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: Working Visa Under Family Stream |
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| Hello musta na.I have read yung mga advise mo sa Forum.I will submit already my application tomm. May 14, 2007.My Application is Application to work under Family Stream.Meaning I can join my partner but you need also to prove that your relationship is genuine and stable.My partner is Permanent Residence na last March 2007 at umalis lang sya ng Pinas last year oct. 5, 2006.Nag live -in kami sa pinas ng 1 year and 4 months.I have submitted documents ng Evidences of our Partnership such as chat blogs,synopsis of our relationship na ako ang gumawa na may signature ko at gumawa rin ang partner ko ng sariling synopsis of our relationship na may pirma din nya ,emails,financial interdependence such as joint accounts,at fund transfer mula sa pangalan ko na cheque,baptismal certificate for marriage na sa aming dalawa at Certificate of No marriage na ni request nya sa NSO bago sya umalis ng PINAS na nagpapatunay na hindi kami pa kinakasal ni minsan for marriage purposes ang nakalagay,Certificate sa Baranggay na were living together since may 1, 2005 bago sya umalis narequest na namin yun,same postal adress and billing adress,Greeting cards sa mg friends namin galing dubai,australia at new zealand at mga friends namin dito sa manila na binabati kami ng Happy Anniversary at acknowledging our relationship,Telephone bills sa pagtawag ko sa kanya at internet cards,at mga PLDT BUDGET cards naginagamit ko pangtawag sa kanya, Exhange of greeting cards na pindala ko sa kanya sa New Zealand with sulat kamay na kasama at Pati yung mga greeting cards na padala nya sakin every months na binabati nya ako ng monthsary namin,joint affidavit namin sa isang savings account namin,at sponsorship documents nya like yung mga certified true copies with matching tatak na notarized with the justice of peace na tulad ng affidavit of Letter of Support na galing sa kanya na sinusuportahan nya yung application ko under family stream,telephone bills nya,electric bills nya,employment contract nya,insurance ng car nya at letter of our intended marriage na galing sa Pari ng simbahan na kailangan ako makapunta sa Sept para makaaatend ng seminar sa kasal namin sa catholic parish church sa simbahan doon with letter head,Letter na galing sa may-ari ng inuupahan nyang bahay na pinapayagan ako na duoon tumira kasama ng partner ko para sa visa officer ko,at tenacy agreement nya at Bank statement nya.Nilagay ko naman ang evidences ko sa 3 dalawang binder na 3 inches ang kapal so total nun 6 inches plus a 3 inches also na binder na puro photocopies ang laman.May interview pa ba ang working visa under family stream?Anu tingin mo?ok na batong mga isusubmit ko na mga documents?gaano katagal ang process ng working visa under family stream? |
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dudeitsarlene
Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 17
Location: Hamilton, New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: Fiancee tourist visa |
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Thank you guys for all the valuable inputs. My visa application has been approved. I got it in 6 working days from the date I lodged the application. No interview. Awesome.  |
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Seih
Joined: 25 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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I submitted by EOI last April 2008 and was seclected April 9, 2008, excluding my boyfriend for a year and a half as 'defacto'. I am afraid that if I would include him, the processing of my papers will take time to be approved because of some situations out of my conrol. Although I dont have the ITA yet, I am very guilty , hence, I would like to ask how I can get him and stay with me in NZ once I am approved of WTR visa.
But here is the situation:
1. He is not yet annulled to a previous relationship
2. His highest educational attainment is second year college in Industrial Engineering. Although he has various experience in hotels and bars as bartender and a telecoms technician, I am afraid that i cannot claim points for him.
Sorry if I am too excited to ask these questions.
Thanks for your help. |
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levi
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Posts: 280
Location: Auckland Central, New Zealand
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Seih wrote: | I submitted by EOI last April 2008 and was seclected April 9, 2008, excluding my boyfriend for a year and a half as 'defacto'. I am afraid that if I would include him, the processing of my papers will take time to be approved because of some situations out of my conrol. Although I dont have the ITA yet, I am very guilty , hence, I would like to ask how I can get him and stay with me in NZ once I am approved of WTR visa.
But here is the situation:
1. He is not yet annulled to a previous relationship
2. His highest educational attainment is second year college in Industrial Engineering. Although he has various experience in hotels and bars as bartender and a telecoms technician, I am afraid that i cannot claim points for him.
Sorry if I am too excited to ask these questions.
Thanks for your help. |
Thank you for sharing your very sensitive situation.
Some thoughts to ponder before you get into a situation where you cannot undo things already:
*According to new zealand immigration rules, partnership is not based on a piece of paper, it is a totality of truthful and reliable evidence of the existence of your partnership. So, if you are worrying that the lack of a "marriage certificate" would hamper your chances of getting your partner into nz, breath a sigh of relief because that is not the case.
*Now, the hard part: new zealand immigration will recognize a partnership that is genuine and stable. Stable meaning that the relationship would likely endure in the future. Genuine means that both partners are into that relationship exclusively and that there are no "impediments" to the existing relationship. I will leave it up to you to make your own conclusion regarding the state of your relationship vis-a-vis your current immigration application, and if you made the right decision in excluding him in your application.
*So will you be able to get him eventually? Well, if the eventual "entanglements" have been legally severed on his side, you might be able to do the marriage/partnership thingy. This always depends on you getting a permanent residency in nz AND him finalizing the termination of his marriage; both should happen.
*Sorry for being b*tchy to enquire but have you asked yourself "is this guy with so many emotional and legal baggage REALLY worth it? I mean, really worth the money and effort? Would I still consider our partnership when there will be an opportunity for me to meet SINGLE AND AVAILABLE MEN in a new country?"
Just food for thought. |
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Seih
Joined: 25 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Seih"]
| levi wrote: | | Seih wrote: | I submitted by EOI last April 2008 and was seclected April 9, 2008, excluding my boyfriend for a year and a half as 'defacto'. I am afraid that if I would include him, the processing of my papers will take time to be approved because of some situations out of my conrol. Although I dont have the ITA yet, I am very guilty , hence, I would like to ask how I can get him and stay with me in NZ once I am approved of WTR visa.
But here is the situation:
1. He is not yet annulled to a previous relationship
2. His highest educational attainment is second year college in Industrial Engineering. Although he has various experience in hotels and bars as bartender and a telecoms technician, I am afraid that i cannot claim points for him.
Sorry if I am too excited to ask these questions.
Thanks for your help. |
Thank you for sharing your very sensitive situation.
Some thoughts to ponder before you get into a situation where you cannot undo things already:
*According to new zealand immigration rules, partnership is not based on a piece of paper, it is a totality of truthful and reliable evidence of the existence of your partnership. So, if you are worrying that the lack of a "marriage certificate" would hamper your chances of getting your partner into nz, breath a sigh of relief because that is not the case.
*Now, the hard part: new zealand immigration will recognize a partnership that is genuine and stable. Stable meaning that the relationship would likely endure in the future. Genuine means that both partners are into that relationship exclusively and that there are no "impediments" to the existing relationship. I will leave it up to you to make your own conclusion regarding the state of your relationship vis-a-vis your current immigration application, and if you made the right decision in excluding him in your application.
*So will you be able to get him eventually? Well, if the eventual "entanglements" have been legally severed on his side, you might be able to do the marriage/partnership thingy. This always depends on you getting a permanent residency in nz AND him finalizing the termination of his marriage; both should happen.
*Sorry for being b*tchy to enquire but have you asked yourself "is this guy with so many emotional and legal baggage REALLY worth it? I mean, really worth the money and effort? Would I still consider our partnership when there will be an opportunity for me to meet SINGLE AND AVAILABLE MEN in a new country?"
Just food for thought. |
hi levi!
Thank you very very much for enlightening me on my immigration application case. It was very informative,helpful and most of all, b*itchy but caring towards the end of your answers.
On your last paragraph, i have had asked that questions to myself over and over again. I knew you are very intelligent enough to know my answer. 
I made the brave effort of disclosing my very sensitive situation because i care and adore him
dearly. I am not closing the doors though of on any possibilities come the time I would be given a visa to NZ. I rest it all to the Lord, and that includes my application.
Thank you and more power to the moderator (is there any?)and members of this forum. I salute you all for making this forum very very informative.
God bless! |
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