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nephrite



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: Filipinos who want to migrate in New Zealand... Reply with quote

questions and answers please. tnx!
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nephrite



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to start over... i am a filipino. me and my husband are planning to migrate to new zealand, the best place we have thought about so far. but we really have no idea on how to do so... is there anyone who can help us? suggest some websites, personal advise, experiences, how long will it take and stuffs like that. unfortunately we don't have any friend or relative in new zealand so we're really are finding it hard to pursue the plan. we're both graduates and into IT jobs (more on hardware). any response will be so much appreciated. tnx so much! God Bless!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need help too.. My plan is to secure a Tourist Visa first here in the Philippines, find a decent job and hopefully become an immigrant.. Has anyone done this before? What is the success rate?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:14 am    Post subject: working/living in NZ Reply with quote

I will give you a link about some of the discussions already made in this website regarding moving/living in NZ so you can have an idea of what and how.
http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/bmb/General/246.html
Hope you will find this link helpful..

Cheers,

J
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

best site to go to is www.immigration.govt.nz
good luck.

from what I know, it's tough coming in with a tourist visa, find work and convert that to a work pass. unless siguro you have a skill that is specialised or in high demand (like some areas in IT or nursing). it might be a better investment to put that money into applying for residency first. because it is much easier to find a job if employers don't have to get permits for you. but i could be wrong.
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ghevie



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi everyone, I'm ghevie from land of the beuatiful sunset, manila

I just come across this website when I'm in search on the latest development on new zealand migration. I was surprise to read the that many of us are seeking to migrate on that green place, I guess we all have the same reason/s. We are highly skilled people thats for sure, the only problem we have right now is the JOB OFFERS required by the NZ govt. prior to migration. The only questions need to address is, HOW WE CAN GET A JOB OFFER WHERE IN FACT WE ARE HERE IN OUR THE NATIVE LAND? Internet? possible but most likely you end-up with an AGENT that has a expensive price tag especially our peso has no value at this time. So, IS THERE ANYBODY (Pinoy or Not) WHO CAN ASSIST US ON GETTING A LEGAL JOB OFFER, ANY JOB for that matter just to start with.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghevie, you may want to check the recent cut-off and see if you qualify now (www.immigration.govt.nz). I think it has been lowered again. Remember that your work experience in the Philippines could count for points if it is in the shortage/priority area.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, Dan,

Thanks to your advise. It's in 100 points at the moment and I assessed myself and I bearly past at 110 points. I check the Priority and Short listed jobs list, its not clear to me if my job and work experience in Puchasing and Materials Management is included on that list. It is also unfortunate that I'm don't have any certification from any local or international association or schools for this job. At any rate, may be I just have to try and see what will happen.

Thanks for your reply and should you have any info on how to get a job offer, please do advise.

regards
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing is for sure. It is very difficult to get a job in New Zealand. Only low level jobs like a waiter in a food restaurant or as a car park security guard or in a supermarket as a check out person is available for migrants. It is almost impossible to get a job on par with your qualification unless you are an European.

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Dan
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan,

I just want to correct your misconception about migrants going to New Zealand and the work available for them. I am a Filipino who move to NZ in 1989. My wife and about 60 to 90 professionals (IT people, Accountants, Architects, Engineers and others) found work in our related field during that time. These Filipino professionals earned an equivalent of weeks salary in the Phils. for a 1 hour work here. So there are good paying jobs for new migrants.
People who ended up working in what you called low level jobs, just happened that there are other qualified candidate for the work they applying for. And most do this type of job para hindi ka naman mabuwang na walang ginagawa sa bahay. I will make an example of my experience. I went here in NZ as a tourist while my wife has a work permit. During that time, NZ are in need of workers from different fields. Alas for me, I can't find work for 6 months due to the market collapse of 1988. I can't find any job because all construction firm is downsizing. After months of waiting, i applied for Mcdonalds ($7.50/hr). With all my qualifications, i am cleaning toilets in McDo (minsan gusto ko ng umiyak - hindi dahil sa hirap ng trabaho kundi dahil sa ego ba - ilang taon kang nagpakadalubhasa tapos heto ang trabaho mo), just to pass time and at least have extra income to help my wife (w/c has a full time work in IT) in paying bills, while waiting for the construction market to pick up again. I also work as train conductor ($13/hr not bad). I spent about a year and a half in this type of job until finally i was able to get a job in my field. I did not want to work in these low level job (Mcdo or as a train conductor) but i have no choice - i need to earn some money too.

On another point you are right - that the qualifications you have back home is not comparable with their standard. I am an architect back home but i am a draftsman here. I do the architects work like designing and preparing specifications and contracts but i cannot sign a contract (unless i upgrade my degree to NZ standard - w/c i should have done then). Same with dentist back home, without taking the upgrade, they will end up as a dental assistant only. but i know one Filipina who did the upgrade and she is now a practicing dentist in NZ. The only job that you can do in NZ or anywhere straight from what you are doing back home without upgrading will be in IT - as the system and the programming language is the same all over the world. Kung nagproprogram ka sa SQL sa pilipinas - walang pinagkaiba ito sa NZ o kahit saan parte ng mundo.

Those people with professional background but ending up working in supermarket work - majority of those have skills that are not in OPL (Occupational Priority List). This list is a good gauge if you want to know if you're skills can be used properly here in NZ if you are deciding to migrate. Plus idagdag mo pa yung english comprehension and personality. Iv'e known an engineer from China who ended up as a cook in a restaurant and complaning about not given a chance - he is qualified as an engineer, but if you're having difficulty communicating in their language (english), paano ka naman iha-hire. There are lot's of reason why the so called low level jobs are ending up to new migrants - it's not that, its the only one available, most of the time it's the economic situation their in. Ke me immigrant o wala yung low level jobs hindi mawawala iyan.



Cheers!
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Chris



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

greetings from Manila !

nice to hear and see this forum running up and about...

JAP, can i get your email add? i am also planning to migrate to New Zealand and I need some additional sound advice (read:tips) on accomplishing my goal.

oops, sorry for not introducing myself, btw, my name is Chris and I am currently working as an I.T. HelpDesk Support specialist.

hope i wouldn't be a bother to you...

best regards,

Chris
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jap,

thanks a lot! the things you have said really do much for me... i dream of migrating to new zealand. your stories inspires me and pushes me to pursue my dreams. i'll try to start my mission thru the internet. hoping this could help...

God bless!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris & Jass

There is a good topic about migrating/looking for work on J's postings. Just follow the link he mentioned. Sorry Chris, i can't give you my e-mail address but post any questions here and i will try to reply the best i can.

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi JAP and to all Filipinos hoping to be in nz,

Me and my friends are also aiming for a better future in nz. We are starting to gather things we need to apply for a tourist visa. What worries us right now, is what's gonna happen to us when we get there. The chances that we have in having a job. We are willing to have even a low level job 'coz for sure it will still offer a much bigger salary compared to what we are receiving here in the philippines.

Do you know of a group/organization of Filipinos there in NZ who are willing to support /assist co-Filipinos who are new to the country. Assistance in looking for a place to stay, and giving support/ guidance on how and where to look for a job. If you can share any information about this group or even an individual who is willing to help his kababayan, please email me at abbylove@lycos.com. We will be praying for a fruitful response from you.... THank you and God Bless !!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teachers,

I will reply to your e-mail address. My reply is quite long.
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