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pioydeg
Joined: 04 Nov 2004
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Hi to all:
It has been months since the last time i visited this site. I was surprised there are lots of messages already from our "kababayans." I found all your messages, replies and insights very helpful, especially that of JAP.
I must admit it took me almost a year to decide whether to go to NZ to marry my fiancee who is a new zealander. I got my visitors fiancee visa september this year... i do have lots of apprehensions and fears, not with my fiancee as i know him quite well... he had come here in the phils 3 times already with a combined stay of about 10 months... my fears are basically on whether i could get a job in line with my qualifications... i had my masters in mgt and with extensive work experience in banking as account/loans officer (having worked with land bank and bank of tokyo for 10 years) and project develeopment and management (with my stint in various govt agencies). i have my IELTS (6.5 band). i am coming to NZ late part of january...
Japs, what do u think are in store for me in NZ? i dont mind starting from below (but if i could avoid doing the odd jobs like cleaning the toilet and all...) My fiancee is a psychologist but not practicing his profession, he is into buy and sell. he finds difficulty getting a work in line with his quals and this puzzles me!
I also got my canadian immigrant visa which will expire august 2005. I dont mind not using my canadian visa if there is a good prospect for me in NZ... besides, my fiancee does not want to go with me in canada.
What are the next steps that i should do as soon as i arrived in NZ in january?
Any feedback is well appreciated. U can email me at pioydeg@yahoo.com
Thanks and God bless to all! |
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K
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Alvin,
A letter from your ex-superiors is definitely a good idea. Some tips:
1. the letter MUST be printed in your ex-company's letterhead.
2. the longer the better. It might be a good idea for you to draft one and then ask your superior to sign it.
3. the way to write it might be to look at your resume. then start a chronological story (or reverse), mention all the technical details. For example "From April xxx to Dec xxx, Alvin was involved in a systems implementation where he was the xxxx. He successfully applied his skills in xxxx on a xxx platform to xxxx. etc.
4. While writing, always keep in mind that you want the reader (who knows nothing about you) to get an understanding of what you did and what you are qualified to do.
I once had to get a US work visa (company transfer) and the letter I had was written as I had described. So who knows, it might work with Aus.
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JAP
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:48 am Post subject: |
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To Alvin,
"K" suggestion is right. Although i suggest making it a one page rather than longer based from my experience in NZ & Aust. My previous employer in both countries provided me a one page reference letter. Enough to show what I accomplished and what tools I used. Also, include your people skills - "easy to work with", has a positive attitude" etc.. Make sure the person who signed it though will back it up (your ref. letter) once they received a call from the recipient (Immigration in this case). Don't forget to include their contact number or e-mail address.
To Pioydeg,
- It's hard for me to tell you how it will turn out - but you have a set of skills that will help land a job in managerial position. You have experience with local and multinational banks plus your master's degree - it helps a lot. There are headhunters (recruiting firms) who handle management positions for large companies. I would suggest that you send them your resume and tell them that you will be in NZ in such date and with the type of visa and you are ready for an interview once you arrive. Keep in mind though that laws governing NZ banks are different from ours. That is why majority of immigrants somehow find it difficult to get the job they're doing back home - it is becuse we don't know their existing by-laws. Example (i always love to give examples) - I came here believing myself i can do drafting just like in the Phils. The drafting is the same but the design is different (building laws and the way they build it). Without me knowing it how can i draft a plan, if i don't know how to follow the design process. So fro me to be competitive (had a chance to work as draftsman) - i had to learn their building codes.
Now you mentioned also that you have a Canadian Immigrant status. Sayang naman kung bibitawan mo na lang. NZ is a beautiful country, but it is also a small one. The opportunities is not as plenty as in a larger country (i.e. US, Australia, Canada). One of the reason we migrate here in Canada is that if times get rough a little bit in NZ (Economically speaking), I can easily work in Canada. Now you might say you can go to Australia once you are a NZ citizen, that's true but that is the only other option (well Britain is another, but too far and always wet). If you maintain your Canadian status (citizenship), you can also go and work in the US and Mexico because of the NAFTA agreement. If you have both countries citizenship (dual is available) you have the opportunity to work in 6 western countries without the hassle of getting a VISA/work permit. That's just my reasoning of doing it. It's not because it's better here or there - I just want to have other options.
And to all others who are asking about moving as tourist - i already posted my preference on that issue.
Goodluck to all!
To Garry (Site Admin),
Thank you for letting us use your website!
Cheers mate!
JAP |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Doon ka nagkamali jap, even your a canadian citizen hindi mo maii-apply yung NAFTA agreement. NAFTA basic stand for North America Free Trade Agreement. NAFTA allows for the free movement of goods, services and investment - but not people - between the three countries. NAFTA is about giving multinationals superior rights than are available to people acting through their governments. It is about stripping future governments of their powers to act on behalf of their electors. It doesn't mean if your a canadian citizen, you can live and work straight away in the US. You still have to look for a job offer and file a petition in your behalf to get you a work visa. |
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JAP
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Guest,
first of all sign your name kahit alias lang ng sa ganoon we can address you. If only you start reading the posting here, you will understand what im talking about. Unfortunately you didn't mind reading the postings or you did not understand what i am or the people commenting here are sharing about. I don't need to explain further about the need of a job offer before you can work in a different country- THAT IS GIVEN (again read the postings). People who normally visit this site are not ignorant! They know what they want that is why they were able to search the internet and landed in this webpage.
Now i don't know your experience regarding working between US and Canada (looks like none as you seem not aware of the TN Visa 'cause if you know you will not post your comment). I was in the US two years ago and work there for almost a year and yes it is easier (no hassle) for me to get the non immigrant worker visa (TN - TradeNAFTA) instead of the normal H1B visa because of the agreement! I cannot see in my post that i mentioned about being a canadian citizen, they can live and work straight away in the US. In a fact here is what i mentioned about it "If you maintain your Canadian status (citizenship), you can also go and work in the US and Mexico because of the NAFTA agreement. If you have both countries citizenship (dual is available) you have the opportunity to work in 6 western countries without the hassle of getting a VISA/work permit."- And no i don't need to tell visitors here that I was offered a contract job (I do now just for your info.) as the topic here is migrating and working in NZ . The only reason I mentioned about Canada or NAFTA in particular is that one commenter mentioned about dropping her Canadian immigrant status.
We are here to share our experiences to help our kababayans all over who wanted to move and have a better life overseas. Correct me if im wrong, maybe they change the ruling now, but that is what i experience so maybe you can share yours. And about your comment regarding NAFTA does not include people - check the TN Visa and i am pretty sure they are included! Here, I will help you find it - click on the link: http://travel.state.gov/visa/tempvisitors_types_temp_nafta.html
I will not give false hope to those who wanted to improve their life. If you think i am sharing wrong informations here - well I'm sorry to disappoint you 'cause I dont. - Also, I dont comment on things i do not know! |
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pioydeg
Joined: 04 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Jap for ur insights and advice. You are right, medyo sayang nga if i wont be able to make use of my canadian immigrant visa...at least, it is there until august next year as an option. I know i just cant get the position of a loan officer or account manager outright in NZ, as i said i am willing to start either as a teller, admin asst, clerk or whatever and upgrade my education so i can have an edge later.
Just a querry to M... do i need to apply for assessment and accreditation of my credentials once i get to NZ or should i apply now while i am still here? where will i lodge my application (in case)? Is it true that UP is an accredited university in NZ (btw, i finished my undergrad and graduate studies at UP)... medyo malaking pera rin kasi ang involved. I need to ready all my documents between now and january (i am supposed to leave later part of january)... and i surely appreciate if u could help me out what other documents i need to bring with me aside of course my diploma, training certificates, employers' certificates...
Im so happy that there is this message board where we get to air our querries and apprehensions... at least, medyo nababawasan ang fears ko of my forthcoming entry to NZ.
Thanks guys... and wish u all well. Gob bless! |
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K
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Hi Pioydeg,
This was true 3 years go when I applied for NZ residency so this could change. Basically yung bachelors degree from UP don't need NZQA. Pero yung masters, you need an NZQA assessment. Check the immigration site (www.immigration.govt.nz) for the most recent info,
At the end of the day, depende siguro what you choose as the category to apply for NZ residency. If you are sponsored by your partner baka di na kailangan magpa-assess at all (but do remember to bring and keep all evidences of the relationship, "letters", "photos", etc). If you apply as a skilled migrant then recheck your points. If your bachelors degree is enough to get through the required points then you may not wish to claim further points for your masters degree (and so avoid having to go through an NZQA process).
At the risk of giving false hopes, I'd say you if are from UP you would do well  Sure, like every other migrant you will find the first months quite difficult but once you are given a break, you'd do fine.
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M
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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To Pioydeg,
NZQA evaluation take about 3 months, but it depends on your school
on how quick they can verify your records back to NZ.
I think (My opinion only) do it there na lang, because you are on a very
tight sched.
and yes as i know UP is on the list of schools that do not need this NZQA
evaluation, as well as Ateneo, LaSalle, UST and atleast 4 more schools
here in the Phil. (This info was told to me by my friend).
For added info please check this site: www.nthdreams.50g.com
Regards,
M |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks guys (Jap, K and M) for your valuable insights, comments and feedback. Things are quite getting clearer to me...
M and K, are u already in NZ? From my previous readings here, i know Jap had previously lived in NZ and now resides in canada (am i ight?). Another querry, is it possible for me to immeditaely apply for a work permit as soon as i get to NZ even without marrying yet my fiancee? I still need some preparations for the marriage, yet i cannot afford to be jobless, as well... Shall i go through job agencies or direct to offices to submit my resume/apply for a job?
Many thanks and God bless! |
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M
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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To Pioydeg,
Check the frequently asked questions portion,
this link -->www.nthdreams.50g.com/faq.htm
this will help answer some of your questions
M |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject: just askin.. |
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greetings!
hello..i am currently a junior nutrition student in the university of the phils. i would like to ask if i can apply for work in NZ as early as now although im not yet through with my studies..
is it also possible to find work there if a person is a college undergraduate but has at least a year of work experience? my friend has this case kasi..
hoping for favorable response from you guys..
thanks! |
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K
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Pioydeg,
Recheck this at the immigration website but you might want to apply for residency right away rather than a work permit (if your partner/fiance sponsors you). Bear in mind that in NZ-speak "Partner" applies to legally married, de-facto and same-sex relationships. So if you arrive in NZ and live in the same household as your fiance (you could fall under de-facto). Partner has a much broader definition here and it doesn't equate to spouse. But then again if your relationship when you arrive here does not meet the definition (per immigration service) then you would have to go via work-permit (which is dependent on getting a job first which in itself is difficult for you as a visitor because of what employers need to go through to employ a non-resident).
K |
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Miaka
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: Froi, magparamdam ka! |
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Hello there, Froi!
I was informed that u r n NZ already. Kelan pa? Where n NZ r u? Please email ynelzapanta@yahoo.com so she and Ton2 could get ideas how to get there 2! Will be glad to hear from u ASAP!  |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi K.
My fiancee has sponsored me... Im currently holding a visitors fiancee visa which will entitle me to stay in NZ maximum of 9 months. But if we get married immediately, i think i can apply for a resident visa. I have all the necessary documents attesting to the genuiness of our relationship. My immediate concern when i get to NZ is to really get a job as i cant afford to be jobless, for one is i will get bored and secondly, sayang din ung skills ko... Just imagine, i have a stable work here in the phils na pinagpalit ko because of my NZ fiancee... Although i am excited to leave, i still have lots of apprehensions and fears as well... yes, ive read the nthdream site, but just the rest, it isnt saying much unless you will pay the encessary amount... pero kahit magbayad ka pa... wala ring assurance sa gagawin nila for your papers...
I guess, i will just cross the bridge when i get to NZ..
Anyways, thanks for all the sharings here
God Bless!
pioydeg |
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willowdan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject: any agency you can recommend? |
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Hi to all my KABABAYANS!
My wife and I are sriously considering migrating to NZ, but we don't really know the right way to do it, apparently the ones disccused here don't apply to our situation.
We each scored 110 given our experiences and from which university we came.
We had been aware of NewJobz through a separate forum in this site, tempting though it involes huge amount.
My wife and I are in I.T. here in Manila, she's in the HR/General Management area, I am into web systems development, far from my Business management degree.
Any help from you guys? Any agencies you can recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies. |
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