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aspirant
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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 Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: Sampang Immigration Consultancy |
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hi folks! i happened to read the concerns of my kapwa pinoy friends, i'm planning to seek the assistance of sampang immigration consultancy na located sa pasay pero dami ko nang rinig na negative feedbacks about this agent. how true na sobra silang mag-charge ng fee sa kanilang clients? totoo rin ba na hinohold passport ng mga clients nila upon release from their Visa Officers?
minsan na ako nakapunta sa office nila, parang lahat ay madali kapag nandyan ka na sa new zealand. totoo bang madaling maghanap ng trabaho riyan? at kapag PR na lahat daw libre, education, medical at iba pa? can anyone help me? please help me
di pa ko nag-eoi kasi 140points na required, i got 125 pts pero sabi ni sampang, maseselect daw ako from the pool kahit below 140points. doubtful ako sa agent kasi di consistent mga paliwanag nila sa amin.
please help me if better na internet na lang ako o seek pa ng agent wag lang sampang. thnx!   |
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Tamulmol
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| Hello, that is true grabe mag-charge yan agency na yan...Malalaman mo na lang pag dumating ng VISA mo... |
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ArchiLinux
Joined: 01 Apr 2006
Posts: 318
Location: Hamilton, New Zealand
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Hi aspirant,
I think you could be better off without any consultant. The instructions are fairly simple, moreso, can be transacted via the internet. You only need to spend time reading through the manuals. Be warned of the things you have heard about that agency. |
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Katie
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi Aspirant,
Nag attend din ako ng seminar sa Sampang before. They seem to be a legitimate consultant but the fact that they are charging 3X the actual cost you will spend if you lodge your application directly to NZIS is already too much of a burden. I think they charge over NZ$3500 consultancy fee maliban pa sa mga immigration fees ha. As everyone suggest, better lodge the application yourself, madami tutulong sa atin.  |
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Lindbergh
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes. They are charging USD3,500.00 which is very too much. The mode of payment is like this: 1,000 upon selection from the eoi pool; 1,000 before release of wtr visa; and remaining 1,500 upon approval of pr visa when you're in NZ. Pero kung pr visa outright ang nakuha mo, you have to pay 2,500 before release of visa. Yung sinasabi na hinohold daw ang visa, partly true kung di ka pa bayad base sa usapan bakit nga nila irerelease yung visa. But what really ironic, you pay that much at tatanga-tanga mga staff dyan. mga morons sila... |
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ArchiLinux
Joined: 01 Apr 2006
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Location: Hamilton, New Zealand
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Not only that. I don't think US$3,500 is an acceptable fee, considering you are in the Philippines where operating costs are lower.
Here in Dubai, consultants charge the same amount, which is undestandable because of the high cost of running businesses.
The only reason for these Philippines based consultants to charge that much is if there is a tariff imposed on their kind of business.
But then again, given the relative ease of preparing the application and all the information provided by the NZIS, the exorbitant fees consultants ask for are ridiculuous. I think they are exploiting you "lust" to go to NZ, because at this point you are blinded, numbed and beaten by your, or should I say, our desire.
If you feel you are going to have trouble with legal technicalities, which is more the nature of the application, then consult a lawyer who can guide you in interpreting the manual provided by the NZIS or someone who well understands English.
In addition to that, browse this forum regularly, post questions, and as a bonus, make friends. Here you will find first hand accounts of what you are about to go through.
Think about this, your consultant will ask you to:
-compile your documents;
-write your job descriptions;
-take the IELTS; and
basically supply every information you need to submit. Then what, they CHECK it for compliance to the requirements, but can you not do this yourself? Given the above you are better off hiring a runner to chase your documents, that is if you're too busy.
All things said, it's still your call. I speak from my experience when I hired a consultant to Canada before. But I cancelled the contract as soon as I shook off my enchantment of going to Canada. I realized through reading various message boards that the process is not at all difficult and that it does not make any difference hiring a consultant.
By the way, comparing the immigration application process of NZ and Canada. I find the former to be easier to understand and accomplish since it has an online option. |
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jemarvazquez
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Hi Aspirant,
My suggestion is to do it on your own. there's alot of people here who can give you sound advice with regards to your application. i've been once under that agency, but i pulled-out my file at early stage(after my eoi has been approved)of the process. i've noticed and heard of so many negative actions and reactions with this agency.
I think you can make it without the help of an agent. you already assessed yourself and able to measure your points. if your still have little doubts on it, try to consult others here who can give you better opinion.
Best Regards,
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spectrum
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Sampang Immigration Consultancy |
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aspirant,
you did the right thing. |
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sanyo
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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My goodness! Its been 3 months since I last read mails through this forum. Nasa Manila pa lang ako enjoy na enjoy na akong magbasa kasi I get tips in case mag sesettle na nga dito.
Pero........ nakakapanlambot namn po ang mga nababasa ko dito sa forum na to. Nature na ata ng karamihan sa mg a Pinoy ang salitang I heard.... sabi ng friend ko .. blahblah blah blah...
Siguro hindi lahat may pangit na storya sa Sampang Immigration. Magsusulat ako hindi dahil kakilala ko sila o naging kliente ako nila pero naging mabuti at tapat na sebisyo ang nakuha ko sa kanila.
Kasama ako sa mahigit na daan na kliente nila . 2002 ng una kaming magisip magasawa na magpunta ng NZ. Bago kami magpunta kay Mr. Sampang naghanap din kami ng iba ang isa sa malakas nuon ay ang Scholes . ( ewan ko kung nag eexist pa ) . iniiisip namin yung san ba kami mas matutulungan at makaka tipid nga. Nagdesisyon kami na gamitin ang Sampang. Hindi po kami TANGA dahil "baka" sabihin ng iba hindi kami marunong maginternet. Nung panahon po na yun mano mano pa hindi pa yung online Application. May form talaga na send mo pa. At isa pa wala talga kaming kamag anak na pwede naming pagtanungan. (wala pa ding pinoy2nz na ganito). Going back...
Ineexpect namin 6 months lang makakaalis kami pero minamalas kami dahil lagi kaming naaabutan ng changes kasama na din ang pag ka lapsed ng papers namin. Bayad na kami kay Mr. Sampang but we have an option to get or not to get our money. ... It was our choice not to andyan na yun e!. Nagantay lang kami sa sasabihin ni Mr. Sampang natatandaan ko sabi nya " Ibabalik uli at dadali ang procedure na yan makikita mo" yun nga ang nagyari . Siguro kung umayaw na kami marahil dyan na lang kami sa Pilipinas forever and ever......
naging mabilis naman ng 2004 nag submit uli kami ng papers namin at ngayon andito na kami sa New Zealand ... Happy and contented!
Teka bakit ako nagsusulat kasi puro hindi makatotohanan ang sinasabi nyo sa Sampang Immigration. Kung realidad ang paguusapan at hindi sabi sabi lang ito ang totoong nasasaksihan ko . ....
Marahil nga iba iba ng experience.Siguro nasa tao na rin yun . Kung ano ang ginawang mali sa kapwa mo babalik din sayo di ba? ang sa akin lang kumuha ka ng agent e di syempre magbayad ka siguro yung iba gustong tumakas a sa responsibilidad. afrom the start sinasabi naman nya ang fees na babayadan (hanggang ngayon pa nakatago pa ang mag pinagpipirmahan namin nun) .. from the beggining tinaggap namin yun.. It was our choice hindi kami pinilit na maging kliente nya kami. Kung di mo kaya ang payments e di magsolo ka!. .. Wala ng libre ngayon at ang consultancy hini libre kasi madaming babayadan na expenses. My sister went to other country as well at nakagastos sya ng almost 500,000.00 ( e---yun at pagdating mo diskarte mopa walang tutulong sa yo).
Pagdating namin dito sa NZ ano ba ang pinakamahirap? Ang humanap ng trabaho? o ang hmanap ng tunay na tao? Sa pamilyang Sampang nakita namin ang tunay na tatwaging pamilya. Actually yun ang importante pagdating dito. It w as really dfficult to be far away from home. MArahil tama nga yung iba dyan na ang agaent nag fifile nag sesend etc etc blahblah blah .. pero yung tuutlong ng taos puso sa iyo mahirap hanapin yun. kung may kamganak ka at tunay na kaibigan na andito na wag ka ng mag agent. Pero kung wala kang kakilala its really your choice. Alin ? hindi lahat ng andito sa forum handang tumulong sa yo ? tandaan nyo na may trabaho din ang mga yan at mag eentail ng itme effort at money. ( sa mga mayayaman na andito marahil oo)
Pag dating mo dito san ka titira? pano ang banking ? ako nga nun Pano tatawid ( pano pipindot) at pano mag papa stop ng bus .. pano ang taxi service ? pano hahanp ng trabaho . Syempre bago ayoko ng feeling ko mahirap ako o kawawa ako ... Ayoko ng mag seself pity ako pero dahil sa pamilyang Sampang hindi ata ako na homesick at madali akong nakapag adjust.
PWES Sasgutin ko na ang mga katanungan at mga daw daw nyo na sabi ng friend ko etc. etc etc..
1. Hndi grabeng mag charge ang agency na yan . Just enough para sa mga gawin nila . Negosyo yun e again its your choice kung ayaw nyo at wala kayong pera wag nyo ! Kung gustong magsarili e di gawin nyo di ba? Wag nakayong mag rely sa sabi ng iba ...Madaming consultancy m=immigration din dito at ang laki ng charges almost 600,000. for the whole family . At dito ang bilis kitain ng pera malit nalang ang charges ni Mr. Sampang pag kumikita ka na....
2. totoo po ang mga sinasabi nila at walang pagkukunwari Kung hindi bakit napakarami ng kliente nila ang andito ngayon? may daan na kami dito kulang na nga lang maging " Sampang Village" ang lugar na kung saan andun kaming lahat.
3. You've heard from your friend na nag hohold sila ng passport? magtanong ka nga kung meron ng hindi nakaalis dahil nahold ang passport nila? May nasa Pilipinas pa ba? Meron madami ang hindi nag bayad kinikuha ang passport hindi magbbayad katulad ng napagkasunduan at napirmahan at pag dating dito ni hindi makapag pakita.. Hinahabol ba nila? Meron madami ang hindi pa bayad. From the beginning may pipirmahan na ina authorized mo ang agent to trnasact on your behalf . Again business is business ....Imagine nyo nga tataya ka ng lotto walang bayad tapos pagnanalo kukunin mo ang napanalunan mo? PANG GUGULANG ang tawag dun ... Ok lang may katapat yun hindi natin alam kung ano at paano di ba?
4. With regards to your latest update na walang business to operate in NZ. Kung di po ako nagkakmiali may accountant po silang nag aaudit at pati na rin may mga letters sila sa table ng tungkol sa consultancy . Bawal dito yun hinuhuli . S Pilipinas kada bayad mo may resibo silang iniissue ultimo ngang seminar may resibo .. Ako yung 2002 ko may resibo na ako nun..
Kaya yang latest update mo mali at "duda" pa nga ng iba" naku nakamamatay yan .. hearsay !
6. HIndi marami ang galit sa kanila marami ang nagmamahal sa kanila, hindi nauubusan ng tao sa bahay nila kadalasan puno pa nga pag andyan si mr. sampang . Walang consultation fee take note. Kahit hindi nya kliente tinutulungan pa nya.
TRUE KAYA ito?
. Dumating na yung puntong KARMA sa kanila. Pahirap sila sa mga pilipino, imbes na tumulong, lalong nagiging pabigat sila sa mga bagong migrants.
8. Excuse me po Mawalang galang na po .. Hindi po sila nakakarma (Masama po ang gamitin yan dahil mas masama ang balik sa yo nyan pag ginagamit mo) Please wag mong sabihing pahirap sila sa mga Pilipino. Again negosyo yun at choice nyo kung saan kayo pupunta o i aavail nyo pa ang service nya.. para yang marketing di ba ? bahala ka na kung bibilin mo o hindi. Malaking tulong sila sa
min personally. Sa paghanap ng matitirhan na mura at maayos. sa pagpunta sa unang treabaho ko ( take note! buong pamilya silang hinatid ako at hinanap namin ang kumpanyang pagtratrabahuhan ko) Wala akong sasakyan at kailangan ko ng hatid sundo .. Wlang BAYAD. gigising ng maaga si Mr. Sampang hinahatid ako at kakaunin ako sa trabaho. Ultimong anak nyang babae na khit may sakit na at kailangang sunduin ako gagawin nila ng walang KAPALIT . Wlang BAYAD walang MONEY INVOLVED!
true kaya ito ? o sa kanya tayo wag maniwala....
If I were you, do it on your own. Huwag na huwag kang magtitiwala sa agent na ito. Ang dami-daming lihim ng agent na ito na unti-unti nang naisasawalat dahil sa dami nilang kaaway.
8. Sige do it on your own kung talgang kaya nyo at ayaw nyong magtiwala kay Mr. Sampang. Pero mas wag kayong magtitiwala sa mga taong mahilig makinig sa sabi sabi at napakingkan lang sa ibang tao. Kung ano man ang lihim nila ibulgar mo! at pakialam natin sa lihim nila na hndi naman makakapekto sa pagkatao natin dito . Sa palagay ko mabuti silang tao dahil dito pag pangit ang charcter mo hindi ka magtatagal dito tsugi ka o aalis ka. ( ooppsss syanga pala hndi tinitignan ang diploma o grades dito pag nag aapply ang importante ay kung ano ba ang pagkatao mo kaya naman kung ang maisagot nyo at sabi ni ganito ... ni ganyan ... ng friend ko magisip isip ka na po.
Sa tema ng pananalita nito mahirap itong magtagal at magpunta dito baka maamtay ka sa sabi sabi ..
True kaya ito ? my goodness talaga oo ' E di dapat hindi sila makaktungtong sa NZ dahil tie up yang 2 bansa na yanAU and AUCK .
Kung totoo man ang balita na "deported sila sa australia", sana naman hindi na sila ipatapon naman ng new zealand dahil sa kalokohan nila.
9.O ayan na naman deported sila ? Bakit ang madalas na stop over at baba nila ay AU pati na din ang airline nilang gamit ay quantas?.. At bbaalik sila sa AU madami ng naganatay ng trabaho sa panganay nilang anak .. a
10. Pwes nakilala ko ang mga anak nya na kung saan ay talgang may pinag aralan . Ang anak nya talgang maganda ang naging trabaho at nagtratrabaho ngayon sa pinaka magandang kumpanya dito sa NZ. Nakakpag bargain ng sweldo at oras...
11. Watch your words ! Si Mrs. Sampang SMART and INTELLIGENT . Pero ang the best CARING and COMPASSIONATE ok na sa akin kung bobo sya sa paningin nyo pero wag lang katulad MO ! sOBRA kang mangahusga . I wont be writing in here kasi dito ako higit na nasaktan ..
SI MRS SAmpang... hindi matutumbasan. Pagdating namin dito wala kaming masyadong baon na pera enough for 2 months na kung walang trabaho talgang ubos. SI MRs. Sampang hindi madamot bukal sa loob na nagbibigay at nagshashare . ang ref namin napupno ng pagkain dahil sa kanya . Hindi kami nag self pity dahil sa tulong nya at mga anak nya.... mind you WALANG BAYAD! WALANG KAPALIT!
OK LANG WALA NAMANG BOBO AT MATALINO SA LANGIT EWAN KO KUNG MAKIKITA KA NAMIN DUN.Hindi rin astang sosyal at mayaman si mRs. Sampang so simple yet so real . Minsan nagpunta kami sa factory store at bumibili sya dun. manila - philippines- bangkok-- new zealand at australia.... yun ang mga napuntahan kung saan saan ba yun? Kayo po marahil...
Yes dont think twice to listen to people who loves to listen to hearsay .. Who loves to say bad and negative towards other people .....
You? would you listen to him ... Again its your choice if you will be needing an agent or not. But its also your choice whose name you should not read on this forum ...
Hope nakapagpayo ako sa iyo ng husto. ........Sagot ko : Hindi ka nakapagpayo gumawa ka lang ng tsismis dito sa forum " Sarap bang pagusapan ang buhay ng may buhay" kung yan ang trabaho mo pwedeng pwede ka sa NZ Herald kulang sila sa tsismis .. malamang pasok ka agad dun o kaya sa Aucklander pwede ka din dun mukhang di ka mauubusan,....
O sya tama na. At tigilan nyo na ang sabi sabi ng iba... Asikasuhin nyo na ang papeles nyo at tignan nyo kung kaya nyong hmanap ng trabaho na related sa inyo in 6 months time ........
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spectrum
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| defensive ka masyado! |
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langdon
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It seems that Sanyo's post was taken from a pinoy tele-novela....too good to be true. I agree that the appropriate term from her reply is DEFENSIVE.
I would just like to emphasize that aspiring migrants DO NOT necessarily need to get the service of agencies such as Sampang. A lot of successfull pinoy migrants have already proven this. I quite resent what sanyo wrote:
"O sya tama na. At tigilan nyo na ang sabi sabi ng iba... Asikasuhin nyo na ang papeles nyo at tignan nyo kung kaya nyong hmanap ng trabaho na related sa inyo in 6 months time ........"
Again, a lot of pinoy got job offers through online application. Some even took less than 6 months time from submission of CV to hiring. It's just a matter of finding the right employer.
If Sampang really helped you in migrating to NZ then good for you. But respect the experiences and opinions of other people with this agency, they have the right to voice out their sentiments.Its okay that you've expressed your satisfaction with Sampang's service but challenging other people's sentiments is UNETHICAL or to put it in layman's term...BASTOS.
Or maybe you're just someone trying to cover up for Sampang. who knows, you may even be an employee of sampang.
Frankly speaking, this forum is your one-stop-consultant on everything you want to know regarding migrating to NZ. You just have to read the threads.
Goodluck to all!
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sanyo
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| ows? really? they were kick out in the house? pitty them.... tsk tsk tsk... did they transfer in rosedale st and were given enough notice to transfer? sobra naman kayo..... |
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sanyo
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langdon,
excuse me i dont watch telenovela. Its so cheap. maybe youre the one who's used to watching them hehehhe.
just the same i'm not airing out my sentiments ... its all my personal experiences, that I want to share with to those in this forum looking for any hints or tips to make their stay as easy as possible or ways that would help them migrate to new zealand. This is what a forum is all about. It is a collection of peoples experiences: this includes their feelings and once again their personal opinion that is freely shared to readers. we all know that what is read in this forum is subject to your own opinion and i respect yours, however biased and debased your opinions are. i understand and respect that you may have reacted with strong feelings, like i did. but the question is, did it you return that respect? if you look through the other threads in this forum and other forums online, this respect is reciprocated among the members of the forum.
again it is your choice whether you will have an agent or not.
"O sya tama na. At tigilan nyo na ang sabi sabi ng iba... Asikasuhin nyo na ang papeles nyo at tignan nyo kung kaya nyong hmanap ng trabaho na related sa inyo 6 months time ........"
What am saying here is: Instead of talking about other peoples lives, look for a job.!.. 6 months is now the validity not 2 years ... and based from others experiences its not easy to find a job relevant to the qualifications..... See? I wrote... "Asikasuhin nyo na ang papeles nyo " instead of just looking other peoples fault/ background etc. etc.etc.
"Again, a lot of pinoy got job offers through online application. Some even took less than 6 months time from submission of CV to hiring. It's just a matter of finding the right employer. "
I have found the right employer only when I got here. I found one back home but they want me to be in NZ and be interviewed one on one. At present Im now working in a recruitment company.And part of our policy now is to prioritize applicants who are now here in New Zealand not overseas. ( oopps thats my personal experience )
"Or maybe you're just someone trying to cover up for Sampang. who knows, you may even be an employee of sampang. "
Again oopppsss ...Challenging other peoples sentiments? Isn't its you whose DEFENSIVE and UNETHICAL or bastos as what you say? What do you think?
Please do not judge me! I am not working nor am I an employee of Sampang.
Again I'm just airing my opinion and real life experiences with the Sampangs. I dont even have or need any commission because Im earning a LOT from my current job. Good karma maybe because we know how to pay and keep our words as we have agreed from the beginning. Its us who makes our lives here not them.....
Frankly speaking, this forum is your on doe-stop-consultant on everything you want to know regarding migrating to NZ. You just have to read the threads.
Yeah! youre right ! read the threads
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sanyo
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jdcer
salamat. |
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langdon
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Sanyo,
Its quite clear that you are working for sampang. I rest my case. |
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